Replace Chernarus with Stuart Island

[Roland]

We have two servers, one available for all owners of DayZ and one only for people who purchased Livonia DLC. As it stands most people play on Livonia. Chernarus has been in low population since Livonia release, which is almost 3 months now. Low population combined with a large map size don't work well for RP purposes.

We don't want to remove Chernarus, as that would make DayZRP a DLC only server, what we can do though is replace it with another, free map.

Stuart Island is a small 5x5km map created by  @Kerkkoh. It is available to all DayZ owners as it is free. It's small, so player interaction and role play will be frequent even with low player numbers. The suggestion is to at least for time being remove Chernarus and replace it with Stuart Island map. Lore etc. can be figured out later, in a number of ways.

 

[Kerkkoh]

I love you

Also yes, Chernarus is dead. Kill the loot goblins that are still hiding there.

Edited February 24, 2020 by Kerkkoh

[sung]

A million beanz, sir. Add Kerk's map please, it adds RP being in a condensed area, more focus on survival and its a change of scenery.

[Ryan Shepherd]

I don't see why not, Chernarus is dead weight right now.

[AndreyQ]

I don't mind trying this map, but I still think people should have the option to play Chernarus.

[Hofer]

I believe this could be interesting to test out for a few months. Obviously we all love and know Chernarus, but a custom map which we have the developer for in our community could be interesting since Chernarus is mostly dead anyways.

BUT

Since this map is US based we really need to sort the whole character page thing out first. We need to be able to assign region to our character. We should also be allowed to have two active characters at the same time, as you can't really travel from Livonia to Stuart Island on a whim.

Two group CPs at the same time should also be a thing. One locked to Stuart Island, one locked to Livonia.

This needs to be ready and implemented first.

 

EDIT: Also lore wipe plz

[sung]

1 minute ago, Hofer said:

I believe this could be interesting to test out for a few months. Obviously we all love and know Chernarus, but a custom map which we have the developer for in our community could be interesting since Chernarus is mostly dead anyways.

BUT

Since this map is US based we really need to sort the whole character page thing out first. We need to be able to assign region to our character. We should also be allowed to have two active characters at the same time, as you can't really travel from Livonia to Stuart Island on a whim.

Two group CPs at the same time should also be a thing. One locked to Stuart Island, one locked to Livonia.

This needs to be ready and implemented first.

Big agree.
 

I also think having a map on the other side of the world to what we are used to RPing will have something fresh. We can discuss different outcomes and stories of that region in the world.

It'll also make sense to have all of these North/South American characters in a place that is closer to their home instead of crash landing their helicopters in Europe.

Edited February 24, 2020 by George

[Pepsi]

I agree to what (Daddy) Hofer said.

I want a new change of pace, Chernarus has been played alot on, Vets and non-DayZRP'ers saw alot of it.

[Maybelele]

As others are saying, Chernarus is too big for the low pop and its dead. I'm down to try out a new map. 

[Player 1]

I'm not against adding another map on top of the 2 we have. I am against replacing a large map with a small one. I came from Miscreated and that map was small. It got dull really quick after a week of exploring the entire map. Plus I like being able to live hidden away and visit towns at my leisure. Not be forced to interact with people all the time because it's crowded. Plus how completed is this map? We aren't seeing everything. I don't want another "Deer Isle". I'm not against the map or map maker. I'd rather not replace a large map with a small one. Especially with the large hostile groups that dominate servers. 

Add a 3rd server. Don't replace Chernarus. 

[Knight]

17 minutes ago, Hofer said:

I believe this could be interesting to test out for a few months. Obviously we all love and know Chernarus, but a custom map which we have the developer for in our community could be interesting since Chernarus is mostly dead anyways.

BUT

Since this map is US based we really need to sort the whole character page thing out first. We need to be able to assign region to our character. We should also be allowed to have two active characters at the same time, as you can't really travel from Livonia to Stuart Island on a whim.

Two group CPs at the same time should also be a thing. One locked to Stuart Island, one locked to Livonia.

This needs to be ready and implemented first.

This is definetly something that needs discussion, altough maybe first a test period of the map before we make the change ?

Edited February 24, 2020 by Knightblast

[Tewudin]

Honestly, I'm on the fence. Not going to vote either YES or NO for one simple reason. Even though this map is US based and would love it to be like what @Hofer suggested, it's ultimately going to result in the same thing that happened to Deer Isle. We will come up with a lore explaination why Stuart Island isn't a place close to US but rather it's an island somewhere off the shore of Chernarus or on Baltic Sea (closer to Livonia). Which sucks. If I believed that we, as a community, would really go through with the idea of having this map being US based and therefore having a mechanic of two characters, one each locked for either Livonia or Stuart, I'd definitely vote YES. Sadly, I don't believe this will ever happen so if there was an option to abstain or I DON'T KNOW, I'd pick it.

Edited February 24, 2020 by Tewudin

[Guest]

Yes.

It's a small map, developed by our lovely developer @Kerkkoh and it does provide a different experience and I think our lovely Loremaster will get something up.

What I would like, as it's gonna be small, loot respawn a tad bit faster, so everyone has the chance to loot their stuff( clothes, tools and whatever else), but food and drinks be rarer, as to emphasize on hunting , growing crops and fishing and promote some sort of cooperation, be it friendly or hostile.

[andysuter]

28 minutes ago, Hofer said:

 

Two group CPs at the same time should also be a thing. One locked to Stuart Island, one locked to Livonia.

 

^this. We 100% need character locking if this map is US based. Im in favour of the new map. It may lift the load on livonia too.

[Crim]

Yeah why not, but it's a tiny map so 30 or 40 slots is more than enough

Edited February 24, 2020 by Crim

[HDragon]

It's a 5x5km sized map.. that's REALLY small. Especially that a quarter or more of that is probably water. Can I change my vote to no?

[Basko]

I think removing Chernarus is a bad idea. Custom maps, as shown in the past with Deer Isle, don't seem to hold up either. People will like it at first, but it probably won't hold interest over time.

Chernarus is a stable and good map which is the basis of Dayz. Removing the option to roleplay on this map will ruin the storylines and progress that has been made on Chernarus. Player numbers might be low on Chernarus now, but this doesn't mean it can't recover.

A measure like removing it seems drastic for a problem that might just be temporary.

[Franny]

Voted yes but would still prefer this map alongside Chernarus instead of completely replacing it. 

Also as @Hofer already mentioned the active character thing needs to be handled as well. It seems all of the chernarussian population already migrated over 3000km to Livonia for some reason. Don't need the same for this map. Especially given the size.

[GaryCash]

I think this is a great idea, I love Chernarus but I think this will benefit it a ton of ways

[Hofer]

16 minutes ago, Basko said:

I think removing Chernarus is a bad idea. Custom maps, as shown in the past with Deer Isle, don't seem to hold up either. People will like it at first, but it probably won't hold interest over time.

Chernarus is a stable and good map which is the basis of Dayz. Removing the option to roleplay on this map will ruin the storylines and progress that has been made on Chernarus. Player numbers might be low on Chernarus now, but this doesn't mean it can't recover.

A measure like removing it seems drastic for a problem that might just be temporary.

Temporary problems could require a temporary fix. If this isn't a hit we could always revert to Chernarus.

[Watchman]

All hail @Kerkkoh ♡

[Stormyvill]

I'm sure it's worth trying. 

Slava Chernarus and all that is good but a change can't hurt. 

[PalmtreeWhale]

is there an overview off the map to view? as in a map of the map?

[Combine]

The big advantage I saw in Deer Island was that it was situated in the same area, meaning little changes required. People would not lose their conceptual environment but would see a new literal or physical environment - a good compromise.

If we switch to a totally new area on the world, I always feel it demands fitting and IN-TIME lore changes plus perhaps a rudimentary set of fitting clothes to go along depending on where it is. Otherwise it's just a weird thing. Many might not mind this, others might.

In addition if Chernarus is gone completely as a world space (represented through a map/server) chars might be locked out.

 

I understand that Chernarus map itself has gotten stale but I suggest a compromise:

1) Have it situated as one of the islands near Chernarus like Deer Island with mild lore integration so people might be able to continue in that setting but on a new map

- alternatively-

2) If it's elsewhere, write the lore in time, you might as well wait until everything is in place instead of "sloppily" throwing the map out (thanks for the creation of it btw, I think @Kerkkoh , more DayZ maps are generally always good) while people have to wait days or weeks for the lore to follow. It should all be done or release-worth in one-go and if it's a smaller map and test, make an according small lore

 

 

[Raptor]

A small map with a nice little lore update would certainly be a nice change of pace