Invovlement/IC vs. OOC/neutral group goals

[Terra]

Hi @Roland

I have a few questions. I want to understand the situation fully and so I figured the best way to achieve this is to ask you directly. I do this in this thread because I think it can help understand not only me but others as well.

 

1. Can you explain to me why this situation is dealt with OOC and not IC?

2. Why is it you are involved in this and why do you think your help in this situation is needed?

3. Why do you think this situation cannot be dealt with IC?

4. Why is it you think the group is neutral when they IC dont act as a neutral group?

5. Did you base your decision and your thoughts about this situation solely on the word of the leader of King's Ridge?

6. You talk about a neutral group and their group goals in your post. Does this mean  that group goals of a neutral group stand above other goals of other groups which are not seen as neutral?

 

Thank you in advance 

 

Edit because of your answer @Roland

5. Why is that? Why do you take one word over another?

Thank you again

 

Again @Roland

5. I dont think it is about if the information about the ultimatum was correct or incorrect. The information incorrect is that they claim to be neutral, while others say they are not, backing it up with IC information. So you take the word of the leader of King's whatever and base your decision on it. That is exactly taking one word over another, is it not?

Edited February 21, 2020 by Terra

[Roland]

1. Because someone came to me asking about it OOC and I handle things OOC
2. Because someone came to me asking about it and I was able to quickly resolve the situation by PMing leaders of both groups that put the neutral group in the middle of their conflict
3. I never said that, it definitely could have been handled IC
4. I have not seen any indications that they are not a neutral group or that they are allied with someone
5. Yes
6. Group goals that stand for groups identity and core values should not be able to be changed due to strong arming ultimatums issued in game. That applies to all kind of groups. For example a bandit group should not be forced to change into a hero group "or else". A hero group should not be forced to become a bandit group and attack others "or else". A neutral group should not be forced to pick sides and throw away their neutrality "or else".

Much love  

 

Edit:

5. I got sent information, based on that I sent a message to two other leaders, they didn't dispute validity of this information. What I was told about the ultimatum and conflict so far was the truth. It's not like I was lied to and did something based on false information. So I don't think I took one word over another since there was no another.