Invalid kill/kill complying hostage

[Aron73]

Server and location:  S1 Levonia

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): around 21:00 server time

Your in game name: Daniel Karlsson

Names of allies involved: @Phoenixand group

Name of suspect/s: @CJ and group

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

 

Detailed description of the events:
First of all Great hostile RP I just wish it did not end as badly, from what I have heard the shooter was not even apart of the 503.
The event was about to end and I got my hands cut loose as you can see in the video and the guy in front of me shot as soon as I got my hands free.

[Conor]

Kill Logs:

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21:20:12 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" (DEAD) (pos=<9783.8, 10085.8, 261.1>) killed by Player "Nicholas Karagoz" (pos=<9781.0, 10078.5, 261.1>) with .408 Praetorian Composite M300 from 7.81509 meters

 

Hit Logs:

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21:06:08 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by Player "Charlie James"  into Head(0) for 3.5 damage (MeleeFist)
21:06:09 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by Player "Charlie James"  into RightArm(17) for 7 damage (MeleeFist)
21:09:25 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by Player "Charlie James"  into LeftArm(22) for 14 damage (MeleeFist_Heavy)
21:11:43 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by AKM
21:12:42 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by M4A1
21:15:59 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by Player "Riggs Fuller" with Screwdriver
21:17:08 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by FAL
21:17:08 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by FAL
21:17:09 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by FAL
21:17:09 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by Player "Riggs Fuller"  into LeftHand(46) for 14 damage (MeleeFist_Heavy)
21:17:17 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by Player "Riggs Fuller"  into Torso(1) for 12.6 damage (MeleeFist_Heavy)
21:20:12 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by Player "Nicholas Karagoz" with .408 Praetorian Composite M300 from 7.81509 meters
21:20:12 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" hit by Player "Nicholas Karagoz" with .408 Praetorian Composite M300 from 7.81509 meters

 

Chat Logs:

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21:11:04 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): //perms to perma scar??
21:12:01 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): //permission to perma scar??
21:12:11 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): //@Cop
21:12:17 | Chat("Daniel Karlsson"): //granted
21:13:24 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): *flips screwdriver in hand and catches*
21:13:44 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): *puts screwdriver to back*
21:13:52 | Chat("Charlie James"): // U GOT PERMS?
21:14:35 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): *Fastly slits the diagnial line in a capital A*
21:14:55 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): *carves the rest of the a slowly but surely*
21:15:17 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): //i meant I btw
21:15:19 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): //typo
21:15:29 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): * Fastly slits A into back*
21:15:53 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): *Carves a lower case r into back deeply*
21:16:50 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): *grabs my skull and bends him back. letting the scar bend*
21:20:05 | Chat("Riggs Fuller"): *wipes blood on his poncho*
21:27:01 | Chat("Nicholas Karagoz"): *pulls down trousers*
21:27:44 | Chat("Nicholas Karagoz"): *wipes his ass with leaves*
21:29:53 | Chat("Nicholas Karagoz"): *starts to vomit*

 

Connection Logs:

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17:01:32 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" is connected
19:45:53 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" has been disconnected
19:48:20 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" is connected
21:20:47 | Player "Daniel Karlsson" has been disconnected

20:37:59 | Player "Nicholas Karagoz" is connected
22:02:20 | Player "Nicholas Karagoz" has been disconnected

20:19:26 | Player "Charlie James" is connected
-Still connected-

20:16:27 | Player "Riggs Fuller" is connected
21:49:44 | Player "Riggs Fuller" has been disconnected
21:59:00 | Player "Riggs Fuller" is connected
-Still connected-

 

Action Logs:

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21:02:59 | Riggs Fuller <9784.68, 10087.3, 261.122> restrained Daniel Karlsson with Rope

 

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Calling in the following people for their point of view as well as any un-edited video evidence they may have.

@Aron73 - Daniel Karlsson - OP

@Symplekti - Nicholas Karagoz - POSTED

@C-J - Charlie James - POSTED

@Atrix17 - Riggs Fuller - POSTED

[CJBB]

CJ's POV

So we are rolling around, heard shots near a church and decided to go and investigate. We begin to do some socialising with the people around the church. I pull one guy of to the side, that one guy is @Aron73 To have a little private conversation to get to know him. During our talks, he then tells us that he is a cop. A police officer. So after some preparing and some talks I drop a code word that signify's to all my guys that a hold up is about to commence. We mass initiate on everyone in the area. everyone complies. after everyone complies we separate the hostage we actually want from the crowd and apologise to everyone letting them put their hands down and be free. 

We pull the hostage around the back of the church. and start engaging in hostile roleplay, letting some of my boys torture him and scar him. we thought fuck it why not. after my boys have had some fun. i decided its time to let him go. So I begin to cut him free. Thats when a complete random I have never seen before in my life, just raises his Cheytek and just blows the mans skull into a literally another dimension right next to me. 

I have never met the dude before, didnt know who he was. and he just shot my hostage. (I know im supposed to keep my hostages safe at all times) but there was literally no way I could predict a random guy from pulling out his gun and shooting him in the head. This guy then was pretty rude to @Phoenix, after randomly talking down to her. he goes to a bush and shits in it. wipes his ass with leaves and then gets questioned to why he randomly killed a man. 

Id like to apologise to @Aron73 and hope it doesnt damper any future experiences with the 5.0.3, the boys and I would love it if he can remember the situation, as I do not think its fair for a random guy to come up and randomly shooting him ruining all the roleplay we had in the events prior. 

I would like to add I may have video evidence (shadow play 5 minutes) I hit record when I was reminded in dms by @Phoenix little do I know what I actually have captured. but I know for sure I did not record him shitting in a bush. I will look through my video files tomorrow, when im back from work. as its too late to upload the video evidence and post it. 

[ImAtrix]

Riggs's POV:
Riggs and the boys got word of some people at the church so we decided to go up there and have some RP. We were role playing when @C-J throws out our super secret initiation code word. I had an idiot moment and initiated on the group of people rather than just @Aron73. The boys caught my mistake and quickly corrected and initiated on @Aron73. Shortly after we got @Aron73 behind the church and started some hostile rp. Eventually I asked for perms to perma scar and carved "LIAr" into his back. I told him to get up, and then continued the torture rp by spitting and making him bend his back. He was sick and got me sick so I beat him up a little. I step away. Suddenly I hear a gun shot, turn around. and boom. hes dead.

Will Upload Video after if it uploads. Hopefully tomorrow. Gonna try to upload overnight cause I wanna enjoy the game and uploading vids destroys my internet

Got perms to edit out the Discord screen from a GM

 

Edited February 13, 2020 by Atrix17
added to my video reasoning

[Aiko]

Since @Symplekti has been online since, and has viewed this report. They will be temp banned until they post their POV.

[Symplekti]

Im pretty sure the video proves everything here showing my guilty but here is my POV 

 

i initially first met with one of the 503 and he had asked if i wanted to go with him. i was then by the chuch untill someone was trying to hold up everyone. I was told that i was not being initialised on and i sat there and watched Daniel Karlsson get tortured. One of the 503 came up to me and said if i ever killed a man before and i replied no. He then asked if i wanted to kill Daniel Karlsson and i also said no. I had killed him later on after he had been tortured for (RP reasoning was to end his suffering) bur i clearly realised straight after that i had messed up and broke the rules.

 

i know that i have broken the rules and i take full responsibility.

I would also like to apolosgise to everyone involved for the bad RP.

 

 

[Peril]

Summary:
@Aron73 found himself captured and tortured by @C-J and the 5.0.3.  Shortly after being cut free from him restraints, Aron is shot and killed by @Symplekti, who had been roleplaying with other people in the area.  Following Aron's death, Symplekti opts to defecate in a bush and use the leaves of it to clean himself in full view of everyone in the area.  Frankly, this is about as clear cut as an invalid kill can get.  Symplekti is not a member of the 5.0.3, had not roleplayed with Aron, and had absolutely zero right to kill Aron in any way, making the inappropriate killing on Aron an invalid kill (on sight).  As for the detailing of Nicholas' bowel movements after the killing, we harbor nothing short of distaste for this behavior.  There is not need to roleplay out things like this on the server, especially not right after killing a man and being questioned about it.  This is pretty plainly BadRP and will be verdicted as such,

Evidence:

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21:27:01 | Chat("Nicholas Karagoz"): *pulls down trousers*
21:27:44 | Chat("Nicholas Karagoz"): *wipes his ass with leaves*
21:29:53 | Chat("Nicholas Karagoz"): *starts to vomit*

On 2/13/2020 at 5:15 PM, Symplekti said:

I had killed him later on after he had been tortured for (RP reasoning was to end his suffering) bur i clearly realised straight after that i had messed up and broke the rules.i know that i have broken the rules and i take full responsibility. I would also like to apolosgise to everyone involved for the bad RP.

 

Suggestions:
@Symplekti, simply put, don't do this ever again.  You must never kill someone you do not have rights on, regardless of your roleplay reasoning.  If you do not have kill rights, initiate before you shoot or do not shoot at all.  Please take time during your ban to review rule section 4 and fully grasp our rules regarding hostilities.  As for the text RP you engaged in after killing @Aron73, it was tasteless, inappropriate, and needlessly detailed.  We implore you to make use of the tried and true, "fade to black," method in the future for roleplay like this; there is no reason to detail your actions when a simple, "I'll be right back, need to use the restroom," will suffice.

Verdict:
@Symplekti | Invalid Kill (on sight), BadRP | GUILTY.  7 day ban, 15 warning points.  Character reset.

Signed by @Peril & @Eagles