S2 Livonia Invalid Kills/Ghosting Server time (UTC): 2020-02-08, 05:49

[GG Boys]

Server and location: Livonia 

Wherever the hell this is

 

 

 

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME):  Server time (UTC): 2020-02-08, 05:49

Your in game name:  Noah Russo

Names of allies involved: @ImNovaaa @ImGrazey @Eagle @Hegedraagen

Name of suspect/s:  Cartel? 

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): Dunno

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

 

 

 

 

Detailed description of the events:  So we come across Cartels base to which we share bad blood with ICly so we decide to take action. After some shenanigans and friendly fire..... (Sorry @ImNovaaa ) we have a normal fight. Now at the start of this entire thing all is normal. But by the end of the fight, A fuck ton of people randomly log in. Either that or they are some very very sneaky people. But I believe a mix of the logs will show the truth.  I believe there was maybe 4 people when stuff popped off and there was definitely a lot more than that by the end of things.

 

For Reference, The first clip where I shoot at the guy in the watch tower, that is almost right after initiation meaning anybody that logged in after whatever time it says in the logs is who I am specifically reporting.

 

So my thing is all kinds of fucked up but Ill break down each clip.

 

So the first one is right after initiation and its us dropping the guy in the tower. As said above, I would like that to be used as a reference point in the logs as I believe he is the first casualty, either him or our boy jimmy who got fragged (Literally) By @Eagle by accident (<<<<< The friendly fire is not being reported)  

 

 

Second clip is of me killing a guy on Camo, no real reason behind it but I figured you guys wanted all video evidence so there is that

 

Third clip, After crashing, I log back in and im the only one left alive. Thus why I stop double micing cause its not like i can give callouts anymore. I stream it so the boys can watch. Third clip nothing actually really happend but again, Its just more evidence I have. Before that clip I believe I dropped 2 people but I cant confirm. I thought I had clipped but there is nothing there so I dont have video of it. I had crashed as said above because I killed a dude that pushed me and my game decided to freeze and crash the second it happened.

 

 

The 4th clip, still, all alone by myself thus the reason I don't double mic since ya know, literally no point since I cant really give callouts to dead people. Still streaming. The clips wont really show what im reporting specifically but its just the evidence I have of the situation.

 

 

To recap, from the first clip of the guy killed in the tower or the death of @ImGrazey in logs, I would like to be cross checked with connection logs of anyone who "Woke up" and just started popping shots at us without initiating on us.  

 

[Ice]

Pov: Im in fourth clip and was in base whole time from start of noahs first imitation in which I after words dropped my own for those outside the walls as I am not an official member of another group that occupied the compound. Noah was acting dumb asking for a plate carrier. Soon after he initiates alone. For the next 20 min I camped out the Entrance Guard Building during this time Noah drops a second initiation before rotating to the back side of the compound where the prison cells were. Over coms I heard wind of one last enemy near car tents and make my move. I end up forgetting to turn to full auto and die subsequently to Noah. 

This seems like a False Report there were dozens of individuals already inside when the compound was initiated on by Noah with his gang of only four members. Noah himself dropped two different initiations calling for people inside to drop there weapons and put there hands up or die. He dropped his second one around 30 min into the first one. 

All these kills show members inside the compound Noah himself had called for to surrender him to claim these kills are attempted invalid kills is completely untrue. Especially for me personally as I dropped my own initiation and Noah had dropped on two different occasions.  

I would like to discuss how Noah came to suspect this being a cartel base icly if Cartels presence had not been there for more then 24 hours ooc. The location was also kept under tight wraps and there would not have been any mention of a Cartel base ic by anyone with knowledge of the compound in question.  You state you suspect this was a Cartel compound hence why you approached and Noah acted unaware and a few moments later dropped an initiation but your whole presence passively was no more then two min and no mention of cartel at all. If this was a suspected Cartel base you never asked to speak to one of our men never even mentioned Hector or any of those names of the Cartel Noah appreciates shit talking icly every battle. I was the only Cartel member within the compound or around at the time. The only men Noah spoke to was two men of a different group and no mention of cartel had ever occurred till now. 

Edited February 8, 2020 by KillsceamguyHP

[edgy Vandire]

Just going to throw my two cents out here.
While they may have been looking around military zones, it was brought to my attention that they had seen the place due to clips from @YAKMOUTH stream, and two individuals which will remain nameless came to me specifically stating that they had meta'd the location of our compound. There is a strict rule that the place is not to be discussed IC(due to many people being in danger) or even OOC(for metagaming purposes). This place was not found on a whim by any means. 

[BeanMama]

POV: I was going to log on tonight either way, because I log on every night, right around this time, I did get off a little later than usual, and by the time I got home from work, I heard there was some commotion outside the base; I heard this through a radio call from someone within my groups, I am a community leader IG for a dynamic group, and I have also recently joined an official, the person who radio'd me is in both of those groups, and we run the base. Pretty much everyone carries a transceiver, therefore is allowed to use discord to radio intel, and so they did so to notify as I was logging on that there were hostiles at base, at that point there had already been an initiation. So yes, I did log in during a firefight, but I did not "ghost" in, as I had previously logged out in the center of a room, totally vulnerable if someone had eyes on the windows surrounding me. I honestly expected to be sniped as soon as I logged in, and I stated this within the discord.

And, just to clarify, even if I logged in specifically for the firefight, because this base is my home, I am going to cite this very recent post by Elmo:

When I logged in, the talking was over, initiations had been dropped on, as I gather, "everyone in the compound", which, our compound's residency includes SEVERAL groups, all of which are secretly working together in a covert operation. I believe that Killscream is right, and this report is an attempt to gain even more meta information. If a moderator would mind me withholding that information publicly, I would be happy to DM with it,  but I truly do think this is an attempt to meta us into leaking info, because IG we have been very good about not leaking the info. If I must reveal it here, I will, but I hope you understand why I would rather not.

ALSO Note that Noah has been so kind as to circle our secret base on the public forums in an attempt to get us Meta'd by other people. I don't like to take things in bad faith, but this seems really petty and I think it supports our case that this is a false report in attempt to meta.

So good, in fact, that Noah only knew where we were because of Yakmouth's stream. Which is why, I believe, he thought it was a Cartel base. The guys who talked to Noah at the gate are not cartel, and did not to my recollection mention cartel, the only cartel present was Killscream. 

During the firefight, I was in a building, and I did not have eyes on anyone, so I did not fire a shot, I think only 2 were left when I logged in. Maybe 4 or 5 total hostiles. So I didn't really need to, plus my char is generally non-hostile, has a high value for life, and only will take a shot in the most dire of circumstances. I was *also* having issues with my keybindings, kept accidentally reloading, and I was trying to sort that out while IG. Basically i had streamlabs and discord stuff hotkeyed for my streaming set up still and I hadnt switched them over to the dayz set up. oops. So I wasnt very useful. Obv I couldnt log out to fix this issue, cause I wouldnt want to combat log, so I hunkered down in the building and hoped for the best. The people outside took care of it, so I did not engage in combat.  I have video of my POV. The fight starts when I log in at the start of the vid, ends at about 23:00, so you don't have to watch the whole thing. After that, we celebrate a little, and start a few minor group operations. 

Noah decided ooc to hit the base because we had an IG friend of his there yesterday, while Yakmouth was streaming, and the situation was tense and somewhat violent. Noah would have IC reasons to go after our base after what happened yesterday, but here's the thing, Noah's character couldn't possibly know what happened, or where the base was, because the person we had here, is still being held, with no radio, and is being escorted by Yakmouth himself. Now, he might have just *happened* upon the base, but, I will show evidence below that that is not the case. 

The person being escorted is the character Benjamin Brown. I can't seem to tag people right now, so I apologize that I am not doing that. ImKrullxx I believe is his username? 
Krullix actually showed up IG to our compound willingly. We all had great RP, and he left as a sort-of hostage, and then later that day, after he had logged (still with Yak IG as far as I know) he sent this.



And




And then in my discord, we were discussing the possibility of being Meta'd. This is not the first time I have suspected this group of using meta info to chase us, but this time I have proof, so I was already likely going to be reporting. I was going to wait and see if anything came of it, and, well, here we are. A damn shame, cause I feel like metagaming really sacrifices good roleplay and I detest it and wish people would just value the RP involved in finding out information IC. 

I have a video of my entire POV during the fight and post-battle celebration. Howeve,r I don't actually know where I can upload it besides youtube. I have to do that, so I will add it later tonight or tomorrow.
 

Edited February 8, 2020 by Wynne

[Nova]

POV: 

First off id like to say, I don’t agree on the report. Was confused at first as to who killed me, as if he was outside the base I don’t think he’d have kill rights on me. But as he says, he jumped out. So that’s cool with me. 
 

As for what Ben said in PM’s to them, saying that I wanted to meta game their location is false. Ben had even said that they blindfolded Hector so how could I find their base via stream? Ben had shown me clips from his situation there that he thought was funny and that was that. We had already been checking radio towers for bases, for a few days now. Position logs would show that I went as far as the bottom left radio tower near D-Bug a day or two ago. Used that same reasoning today and we came across this place on our way down to Dolnik, as it was off to the side of the main red road. Didn’t know it was Cartel personally until we heard @Vandire at the front gate (at least that’s what @ImMason told me.). 

We initiate after they asked us not be suspicious and the man in the radio tower was aiming at us. I eventually get inside and big brain Noah TK’s me. 

End of my POV. 

 

[StrawberryJam]

POV:

Noah Russo and 3 others come up to the gate where he meets @Vandire and myself, neither of who are Cartel. He says he would like to trade for a battle belt or an M4, The exchange goes on for a few seconds and than he immediately initiates on the entire facility. The base is a joint operation between several groups, the largest group being Umbra. I am the leader of the group Umbra and most of the people in the base at the time were full roster members of my group. If Noah had made any attempt at RPing with me at the gate he would have learned that the base was in fact mostly Umbra and had nothing to do with the Cartel, however it appeared he had already made up his mind and thought he already knew the story. The gentleman who engages Noah from the woods in video number 4 is @JoeRogan, a full roster member of Umbra who would have had defender rights on the dynamic group that attacked us. He was out getting picked up by allies and was radio'd to return ASAP as we were under attack. Logs will show that he did not "ghost" in as suggested, and again I will site the same verdict that @Wynnedid. There were far more than 4 people inside the compound when they arrived, but again, they were unaware of that because practically no attempt to RP before initiation. There is no reason IC for anyone to think this is a Cartel base.  

Edited February 8, 2020 by TegsBenedict

[Eagle]

Go on a run looking for bases come across this one and think there are only 3-4 members there we attack and soon realize there are more ending with us all dying in the end.

Edited February 8, 2020 by Eagle

[Inferno]

Calling in the following people for their full POV and any unedited video evidence they may have.

@ImMason - Noah Russo - OP
@crashport - Lee Harden - Posted
@ImNovaaa - Chance Morrison - Posted
@ImGrazey - Jimmy Cerrone - Posted
@TearsFallSilent - Brian Peterson - Posted
@Eagle - Ramon Pushkin - Posted
@apaliics - Tach Kapkush - Posted
@Gaard - Levi Gaard - Posted
@KillsceamguyHP - Steven Ice - Posted
@JoeRogan - Joel Miller - Posted
@Hegedraagen - Olivia Bjornstad - Posted
@Acfalle - Jay Thompson
@Umfrage - George Wolbert - Posted
@Leonatos - Leo Thorn - Posted
@Foley - William Foley - Posted
@chief_mello - Smedley Butler - Posted
@Vasily Zaitsev - Ruslan Maksim - Posted
@Wolfgang Fox - Wolfgang Fox - Posted
@YAKMOUTH - Hector Enrique Del Toro - Posted

Connection Logs

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04:24:18 | Player "Noah Russo" is connected
05:53:41 | Player "Noah Russo" has been disconnected
05:57:59 | Player "Noah Russo" is connected
-DIED-
06:09:36 | Player "Noah Russo" has been disconnected

 

04:10:22 | Player "Lee Harden" is connected
-DIED-
05:26:15 | Player "Lee Harden" has been disconnected

 

04:42:54 | Player "Chance Morrison" is connected
05:42:58 | Player "Chance Morrison" has been disconnected
05:45:16 | Player "Chance Morrison" is connected
-DIED-
05:51:42 | Player "Chance Morrison" has been disconnected

 

03:16:51 | Player "Jimmy Cerrone" is connected
-DIED-
07:17:50 | Player "Jimmy Cerrone" has been disconnected

 

04:35:42 | Player "Brian Peterson" is connected
05:15:12 | Player "Brian Peterson" has been disconnected
05:15:24 | Player "Brian Peterson" is connected
-STILL ALIVE-
07:09:15 | Player "Brian Peterson" has been disconnected

 

03:15:44 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" is connected
04:44:43 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" has been disconnected
04:44:56 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" is connected
05:05:06 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" has been disconnected
05:05:13 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" is connected
05:45:38 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" has been disconnected
05:45:53 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" is connected
-DIED-
05:53:18 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" has been disconnected

 

04:38:26 | Player "Tech Kapkush" is connected
04:54:36 | Player "Tech Kapkush" has been disconnected
05:05:15 | Player "Tech Kapkush" is connected
-DIED-
05:57:38 | Player "Tech Kapkush" has been disconnected

 

04:24:30 | Player "Levi Gaard" is connected
04:35:26 | Player "Levi Gaard" has been disconnected
04:37:16 | Player "Levi Gaard" is connected
04:50:16 | Player "Levi Gaard" has been disconnected
04:57:45 | Player "Levi Gaard" is connected
-DIED-
06:05:49 | Player "Levi Gaard" has been disconnected

 

04:46:17 | Player "Steven Ice" is connected
04:47:23 | Player "Steven Ice" has been disconnected
04:47:40 | Player "Steven Ice" is connected
04:50:49 | Player "Steven Ice" has been disconnected
04:50:55 | Player "Steven Ice" is connected
-DIED-
06:04:48 | Player "Steven Ice" has been disconnected

 

04:37:57 | Player "Joel Miller" is connected
04:56:32 | Player "Joel Miller" has been disconnected
04:56:51 | Player "Joel Miller" is connected
06:14:46 | Player "Joel Miller" has been disconnected
06:15:16 | Player "Joel Miller" is connected
-STILL ALIVE-
07:11:03 | Player "Joel Miller" has been disconnected
07:11:13 | Player "Joel Miller" is connected
07:17:50 | Player "Joel Miller" has been disconnected
08:28:30 | Player "Joel Miller" is connected
10:38:20 | Player "Joel Miller" has been disconnected

 

03:31:23 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" is connected
05:24:29 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" has been disconnected
05:29:48 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" is connected
-DIED-
05:52:58 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" has been disconnected

 

04:36:19 | Player "Jay Thompson" is connected
05:42:27 | Player "Jay Thompson" has been disconnected
05:43:34 | Player "Jay Thompson" is connected
-DIED-
05:54:17 | Player "Jay Thompson" has been disconnected

 

04:50:59 | Player "George Wolbert" is connected
-DIED-
06:03:19 | Player "George Wolbert" has been disconnected

 

04:35:35 | Player "Leo Thorn" is connected
05:42:46 | Player "Leo Thorn" has been disconnected
05:42:49 | Player "Leo Thorn" is connected
-STILL ALIVE-
07:06:46 | Player "Leo Thorn" has been disconnected

 

04:44:12 | Player "William Foley" is connected
05:06:16 | Player "William Foley" has been disconnected
05:08:16 | Player "William Foley" is connected
05:13:48 | Player "William Foley" has been disconnected
05:23:42 | Player "William Foley" is connected
05:25:37 | Player "William Foley" has been disconnected
05:40:39 | Player "William Foley" is connected
07:17:50 | Player "William Foley" has been disconnected
07:21:53 | Player "William Foley" is connected
-STILL ALIVE-
09:56:15 | Player "William Foley" has been disconnected

 

04:56:41 | Player "Smedley Butler" is connected
04:58:02 | Player "Smedley Butler" has been disconnected
04:58:48 | Player "Smedley Butler" is connected
04:59:46 | Player "Smedley Butler" has been disconnected
05:01:50 | Player "Smedley Butler" is connected
05:11:22 | Player "Smedley Butler" has been disconnected
05:14:17 | Player "Smedley Butler" is connected
05:50:51 | Player "Smedley Butler" has been disconnected
05:51:39 | Player "Smedley Butler" is connected
-DIED-
05:55:30 | Player "Smedley Butler" has been disconnected

 

04:36:55 | Player "Ruslan Maksim" is connected
04:59:49 | Player "Ruslan Maksim" has been disconnected
04:59:56 | Player "Ruslan Maksim" is connected
05:47:38 | Player "Ruslan Maksim" has been disconnected
05:48:55 | Player "Ruslan Maksim" is connected
06:10:40 | Player "Ruslan Maksim" has been disconnected
06:10:48 | Player "Ruslan Maksim" is connected
-STILL ALIVE-
07:06:53 | Player "Ruslan Maksim" has been disconnected

 

04:41:32 | Player "Wolfgang Fox" is connected
05:47:47 | Player "Wolfgang Fox" has been disconnected
05:51:32 | Player "Wolfgang Fox" is connected
06:10:38 | Player "Wolfgang Fox" has been disconnected
06:10:54 | Player "Wolfgang Fox" is connected
-STILL ALIVE-
07:09:08 | Player "Wolfgang Fox" has been disconnected

 

02:44:41 | Player "Hector Enrique Del Toro" is connected
06:52:22 | Player "Hector Enrique Del Toro" has been disconnected
06:54:06 | Player "Hector Enrique Del Toro" is connected
- More connecting and disconnecting - 
10:20:02 | Player "Hector Enrique Del Toro" has been disconnected

Hit Logs

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05:23:22 | Player "Lee Harden" hit by Player "Chance Morrison" with FN SCAR-L from 101.445 meters 
05:23:23 | Player "Lee Harden" hit by Player "Chance Morrison" with FN SCAR-L from 101.176 meters 
05:23:23 | Player "Lee Harden" hit by is unconscious
05:23:39 | Player "Jimmy Cerrone" hit by Player "Brian Peterson" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 23.6222 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
05:23:39 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Brian Peterson" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 12.3997 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
05:23:49 | Player "Lee Harden" hit by regained consciousness
05:23:57 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Tech Kapkush" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 6.22558 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
05:23:59 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 4.764 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
05:23:59 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 50 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
05:23:59 | Player "Jimmy Cerrone" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 40.0033 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
05:24:50 | Player "Lee Harden" hit by Player "Chance Morrison" with FN SCAR-L from 83.2831 meters
05:25:07 | Player "Lee Harden" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 46.6054 meters 
05:25:07 | Player "Lee Harden" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 46.6054 meters 
05:27:07 | Player "Levi Gaard" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 53.0172 meters 
05:42:19 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Levi Gaard" with B52 from 48.1821 meters 
05:42:19 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Levi Gaard" with B52 from 48.248 meters 
05:50:29 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Levi Gaard" with B52 from 72.0072 meters 
05:51:20 | Player "Chance Morrison" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 9.28724 meters 
05:51:20 | Player "Chance Morrison" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 11.1459 meters 
05:51:20 | Player "Chance Morrison" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 11.1459 meters 
05:51:20 | Player "Chance Morrison" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 11.1459 meters 
05:51:24 | Player "Joel Miller" hit by Player "Chance Morrison" with M4A1 from 16.6404 meters 
05:51:24 | Player "Joel Miller" hit by Player "Chance Morrison" with M4A1 from 18.3307 meters 
05:51:25 | Player "Chance Morrison" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 10.633 meters 
05:51:26 | Player "Chance Morrison" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 10.4006 meters 
05:52:33 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.12296 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.12296 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.12264 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.12264 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.11342 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.11342 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.11342 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.064 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 7.83559 meters 
05:52:35 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 7.76394 meters 
05:52:35 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 7.54918 meters 
05:52:37 | Player "Joel Miller" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 15.7747 meters 
05:52:37 | Player "Joel Miller" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 15.6604 meters 
05:52:42 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 5.79601 meters 
05:52:42 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 5.79601 meters 
05:52:42 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 5.79097 meters 
05:52:42 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 5.79097 meters 
05:52:42 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 5.79011 meters 
05:52:42 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 5.79011 meters 
05:52:54 | Player "Jay Thompson" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 5.19474 meters 
05:52:54 | Player "Jay Thompson" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 5.19474 meters 
05:52:54 | Player "Jay Thompson" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.82512 meters 
05:52:55 | Player "Jay Thompson" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.61486 meters 
05:52:55 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 20.3151 meters 
05:52:55 | Player "Jay Thompson" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 1.19521 meters 
05:52:55 | Player "Jay Thompson" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 1.19521 meters 
05:52:55 | Player "Jay Thompson" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 0.971593 meters 
05:52:56 | Player "Tech Kapkush" hit by Player "George Wolbert" with M16A1 from 5.31227 meters 
05:52:57 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Tech Kapkush" with M4A1 from 7.6228 meters 
05:52:57 | Player "Tech Kapkush" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 6.28021 meters 
05:52:57 | Player "Tech Kapkush" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin"  with M4A1 from 6.08898 meters 
05:52:57 | Player "Tech Kapkush" hit by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 6.03765 meters 
05:53:00 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 11.0816 meters 
05:53:00 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 11.0816 meters 
05:53:00 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 10.936 meters 
05:53:00 | Player "Leo Thorn" hit by Player "Ben Hansen" with PPSKN42 from 44.3802 meters 
05:53:01 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 10.2522 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.82596 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.82596 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.82596 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.82596 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.82596 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.61374 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.40252 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.19135 meters 
05:53:02 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.19135 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.52813 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.52813 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.52813 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.52813 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.52813 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.64803 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 9.64803 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 10.0671 meters 
05:53:03 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 10.0671 meters 
05:53:05 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:05 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:05 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:05 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 56.8611 meters 
05:53:06 | Player "Leo Thorn" hit by Player "Ben Hansen" with PPSKN42 from 45.7189 meters 
05:55:05 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 3.57656 meters 
05:55:05 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 3.58449 meters 
05:55:05 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 3.38478 meters 
05:55:06 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 2.29496 meters 
05:55:06 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 2.20674 meters 
05:55:06 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 2.10843 meters 
05:55:06 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 2.19957 meters 
05:55:06 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 2.19957 meters 
05:55:06 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 2.19957 meters 
05:55:06 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 2.34667 meters 
05:55:12 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11151 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11154 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11154 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11146 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11146 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11149 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11149 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11149 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11149 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11146 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11146 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11144 meters 
05:55:13 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11144 meters 
05:55:14 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11147 meters 
05:55:14 | Player "Smedley Butler" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 7.11151 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.69269 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.6669 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.6669 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.66159 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.66385 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.9643 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 4.01323 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 6.26226 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 4.2804 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 4.2804 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 6.25946 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 4.52814 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 6.26412 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 6.26412 meters 
06:02:07 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with B52 from 31.3137 meters 
06:02:13 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with B52 from 21.9605 meters 
06:02:26 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity"  hit by Player "Steven Ice" with M4A1 from 10.2093 meters 
06:02:26 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Steven Ice" with M4A1 from 10.2093 meters 
06:02:26 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Steven Ice" with M4A1 from 2.23151 meters 
06:02:27 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 70.8914 meters 
06:02:27 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 1.02411 meters 
06:02:27 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by M4A1
06:02:28 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by M4A1
06:02:29 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.85749 meters 
06:02:29 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.03682 meters 
06:02:29 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.03682 meters 
06:02:29 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.03682 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "William Foley" with M417 from 70.3074 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.11009 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.11009 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.11009 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.11009 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.93561 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.93561 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.88481 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.75196 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.75196 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.75196 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.60057 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.60057 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.60057 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.65586 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.65586 meters 
06:02:30 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 2.65586 meters 
06:02:43 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 2.72156 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
06:02:43 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 14.1914 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
06:02:43 | Player "Steven Ice" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 20.0467 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
06:02:43 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 0.345114 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
06:02:48 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M67Grenade_Ammo into (-1) for 0 damage (M67Grenade_Ammo)
06:03:01 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox"  with B52 from 20.4631 meters 
06:03:01 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with B52 from 20.4631 meters 
06:03:01 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with B52 from 20.2043 meters 
06:03:01 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with B52 from 20.1165 meters 
06:03:01 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with B52 from 19.7753 meters 
06:03:01 | Player "Noah Russo" hit by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with B52 from 19.7753 meters 
06:04:52 | Player "Levi Gaard" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 23.0809 meters 
06:04:55 | Player "Levi Gaard" hit by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 21.2816 meters 
06:04:56 | Player "Levi Gaard" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 17.3768 meters 
06:05:08 | Player "Levi Gaard" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 24.6853 meters 
06:05:09 | Player "Levi Gaard" hit by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 24.6926 meters 

Kill Logs

Spoiler

05:23:59 | Player "Jimmy Cerrone" (DEAD) killed by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with 6-M7 Frag Grenade
05:25:07 | Player "Lee Harden" (DEAD) killed by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 46.6054 meters 
05:25:40 | Player "Jimmy Cerrone" (DEAD) died.
05:51:26 | Player "Chance Morrison" (DEAD) killed by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 10.4006 meters 
05:52:34 | Player "Olivia Bjornstad" (DEAD) killed by Player "Joel Miller" with AKM from 8.12264 meters 
05:52:55 | Player "Jay Thompson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 1.19521 meters 
05:52:57 | Player "Tech Kapkush" (DEAD) killed by Player "Ramon Pushkin" with M4A1 from 6.08898 meters 
05:53:00 | Player "Ramon Pushkin" (DEAD) killed by Player "Leo Thorn" with M4A1 from 10.936 meters 
05:53:27 | Player "Tech Kapkush" (DEAD) died.
05:53:27 | Player "Jay Thompson" (DEAD) died.
05:55:06 | Player "Smedley Butler" (DEAD) killed by Player "Ruslan Maksim" with M4A1 from 2.29496 meters 
06:01:04 | Player "George Wolbert" (DEAD) killed by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.6669 meters 
06:02:29 | Player "Steven Ice" (DEAD) killed by Player "Noah Russo" with M4A1 from 3.03682 meters 
06:03:01 | Player "Noah Russo" (DEAD) killed by Player "Wolfgang Fox" with B52 from 20.4631 meters

 

[GG Boys]

After looking through logs, I guess these people really were this sneaky so I’d like to request to close this report but before I do I’d like to adress a couple of things

 

So the reason I called it cartels base is because I’ve found out in game noahs once good friend @Vandire has betrayed Noah and has teamed up with cartel to try and assassinate Noah. On top of that, after I initiated @KillsceamguyHP was the one that talked shit and re initiated and as I could recognize his voice, I already knew he was cartel.

 

anyways, I looked over the logs and I guess they really were just that sneaky. I apologize for wasting anyone’s time but I’d like for this report to be closed. 

[YAKMOUTH]

 

52 minutes ago, ImMason said:

After looking through logs, I guess these people really were this sneaky so I’d like to request to close this report but before I do I’d like to adress a couple of things

 

So the reason I called it cartels base is because I’ve found out in game noahs once good friend @Vandire has betrayed Noah and has teamed up with cartel to try and assassinate Noah. On top of that, after I initiated @KillsceamguyHP was the one that talked shit and re initiated and as I could recognize his voice, I already knew he was cartel.

 

Pov, I know I was tagged in this report and I'm glad this could be seen from a different view. I will set the record straight, the Cartel wants nothing to do with bridge water or Noah and has been this way for some time. We don't go looking for them, they seem ot find us and have a personal vendetta with us and especially one with a grass head. Besides, Noah and I are friends and if I wanted to have him killed, I would contact him and ask him to be involved in a story for RP reasons nothing more. 

[apaliics]

I was inside the compound when noah ran up and initiated. I spent a lot of time just holding a angle in a bush, once they pushed inside the compound my group of guys all pushed them at once. @JoeRogan had already been engaging the intruders from the outside walls so we flanked them. I was killed when we pushed.

[Banshee]

36 minutes ago, YAKMOUTH said:

Pov, I know I was tagged in this report and I'm glad this could be seen from a different view. I will set the record straight, the Cartel wants nothing to do with bridge water or Noah and has been this way for some time. We don't go looking for them, they seem ot find us and have a personal vendetta with us and especially one with a grass head. Besides, Noah and I are friends and if I wanted to have him killed, I would contact him and ask him to be involved in a story for RP reasons nothing more. 

Were you actively involved in this situation?

[YAKMOUTH]

8 minutes ago, Banshee said:

Were you actively involved in this situation?

Actually, I was only tagged and Getting notified that my stream was being used for meta. I was playing for a bit, but really didn't go anywhere, see I'm Rping a story with Ben brown. 

[crashport]

Here's my POV. I am up in the radio tower on overwatch when I spot 4 men bee lining it to the base from about 400 meters out. I can see the blue armbands and tell everyone in the base that we have company. Once they get to the base, I watch them circle around several times inspecting the walls, and see two of them in the back corner begin to attempt to jump the walls. I warn them to not jump the wall, that i will shoot if they do, and that they can move to the front gate to talk with us peacefully. They mostly move to the front gate, but i see one person still roving around the gates being sneaky. I then hear one person start talking to Ben about traitors and battle belts, at which point about 4 or 5 sentences in, I hear an initiation that everyone in the camp put their hands up. I turn and see the people at the gate scatter before i am hit in the radio tower and knocked unconscious. I regain consciousness and attempt to stop my bleeding before getting hit again and dropped for good for the rest of the fight. I have no video of this unfortunately.  

[Fox]

Pov: We had went to pick up Joel and we went to return to the to Umbra base to prepare for some assaulting but we heard there were men with blue armbands approaching the fences, which Praetorian Guard had less than friendly encounters with in the past. We had heard that Russo has engaged in hostile action towards our friendly forces inturn giving us the chance to flank them especially since they had entered the compound. I made my way around from the north to engage and ended up spotting Russo hiding behind cover and when I got confirmation it was hostile i engaged Russo ending up killing him shortly after video 4. That's all I got but no video unfortunately.

[ImJimmy]

Jimmy Cerrone's POV: We ventured quite far, looking for bases in the South. As Nova stated, we do look towards radio towers to see if there's any bases there or in the nearby. We stumbled across this radio tower base, noticed someone was in it, because of the campfire. We tried to make contact, and one of our members knew the voices in which was talking to us inside. We quickly got our guns out as we were quite suspicious about the man at the top of the radio tower aiming down towards the front gate where we were, and like I said one of our members recognised one of their voices, in which was a Cartel member. The initiation dropped and I got killed in the first minute of the fight by a friendly grenade as shown in the logs.

I do not have any video evidence of the situation.   

[Vasily Zaitsev]

Pov: We had left the radio station to retrieve joel so we could prepare for an assault when we were heading back to the tower after rendezvousing with joel we were contacted on the radio that approximately 4 men approached the front gate with blue armbands when we were told that it was the russo kid who initiated we double timed it back so we could support our allies inside the compound  we approached  from the north when we arrived in the AO fox and joel split from me so we could sweep the perimeter we learned they were in the compound behind the tents so we maneuvered to a better firing position fox killed russo and the battle fell quiet 

I have no video evidence of the situation

[Leonatos]

Pov: I was held up in the guard house by main gate for majority of contact, before it all went down, got word that 4 individuals were headed up to our location, i then entered the guard house with x1 ally. we waited out in a secure position being on alert. I heard a gentleman speak about trading weapons for ammo and trading for a black battle belt, i was later told it was Noah who was speaking and who had initiated on us, many shots and grenades later, the ally with me and myself went outside to clear our area of hostile activity. I engaged and then subdued the contact after said contact had subdued two of our allies in front of me. Afterwards i had went back down slope into cover and then back into the guard house to then later consolidate with the rest of our friendly forces. If i can be of more help, i will happily oblige.

[Ice]

4 hours ago, ImMason said:

After looking through logs, I guess these people really were this sneaky so I’d like to request to close this report but before I do I’d like to adress a couple of things

 

So the reason I called it cartels base is because I’ve found out in game noahs once good friend @Vandire has betrayed Noah and has teamed up with cartel to try and assassinate Noah. On top of that, after I initiated @KillsceamguyHP was the one that talked shit and re initiated and as I could recognize his voice, I already knew he was cartel.

 

anyways, I looked over the logs and I guess they really were just that sneaky. I apologize for wasting anyone’s time but I’d like for this report to be closed. 

Everything you mentioned is after the Fact I actually did not hear your first initiation and was confirmed it was dropped by my allies via radio. You had no reason to believe this was a cartel base in the beginning. 
 

I am not sure what your saying is sneaky but I dont believe anyone of us had talked this report out with you. Are you dropping it because you have recognized you made false allegations?

Edited February 8, 2020 by KillsceamguyHP

[Draagen]

My POV: my game crashed and lagged, so i was way behind the other guys. When I came to the location I got told to go up to the gate and see if I could get inside. I got told to go away, so i went behind the base to help Eagle boost inside. My game continued lagging and freezing, after a few min I got shot from the outside I believe (not sure because my screen froze).

[GG Boys]

I put up the report up as I thought people had ghosted into the situation and the only way to get that confirmation was through a report as we only saw 3 people and by the end there was a lot more. Clearly after looking at the logs I couldn't be more wrong and thus see no reason to continue on with the report as no rules where broken.

 

To add on, the reason I suspected it to be a cartel base was because like I said previously, I heard your voice when you started talking shit to me after initiation dropped and since Noah knows who steven is and knows steven is cartel I put that as the main suspects of this report.

[Ice]

21 minutes ago, ImMason said:

I put up the report up as I thought people had ghosted into the situation and the only way to get that confirmation was through a report as we only saw 3 people and by the end there was a lot more. Clearly after looking at the logs I couldn't be more wrong and thus see no reason to continue on with the report as no rules where broken.

 

To add on, the reason I suspected it to be a cartel base was because like I said previously, I heard your voice when you started talking shit to me after initiation dropped and since Noah knows who steven is and knows steven is cartel I put that as the main suspects of this report.

What was the ic reason for all this you first claimed that you took action because this was a cartel base but you had confirmed you only learned it had any cartel after the fact. As I already mentioned you never knew of any cartel inside this compound. 

 

15 hours ago, ImMason said:

Detailed description of the events:  So we come across Cartels base to which we share bad blood with ICly so we decide to take action.

As seen here, so far it had been claimed that You were searching for bases and happen to come across this one. Now im sure its safe to assume that when you do not have full visibility of who is inside a large compound you will not know how many there are. I still would like to know what your ic motivation was to search for bases and just initiate on them. To me it seems like there is just bad rp going on here now, the two individuals were not being hostile prior to noah becoming an aggressor seemingly out of nowhere, our man in the tower had provided overwatch way before the arrival of the hostiles he was a precaution and no active enemy towards noah and his crew when they first arrived. 

I feel like there is still lying you could not have just thought such a large compound would lack manpower its ballsy to initiate with only four men but when you claim with such a lack of knowledge on who's inside I doubt that is true. It seems here this rash unprovoked action of not valuing you and your groups lives Was to allow knowledge of this place that “harmed” you to spread icly and you jus used the situation to gain intel on the insides and procedures of the compound. Im sure intentions icly will be to return with more men and use the events here as motivation Sneaky. 
 

It honestly seems like logs were obtained here  just to figure out who occupied the compound. 

Edited February 8, 2020 by KillsceamguyHP
Missed a few points.

[Eagle]

43 minutes ago, KillsceamguyHP said:

-snip-

Seem to be allot of assumptions here if you wish to go for metagaming your free to post your own case and evidence in your own report.
On the fact of knowing who was there it seems your bois already somehow confirmed Cj's crew was there with your broadcast which is strange as you've never met my character before and I was the one who initiated at the front using blue armbands and not ours.

Spoiler

YAKMOUTH - 3 hours ago
[RADIO BROADCAST]: *static Hector's voice can be heard* "Nice try CJ... Me and my men would never give up anything, I'll see you around!"

 

Edited February 8, 2020 by Eagle

[StrawberryJam]

33 minutes ago, Eagle said:

Seem to be allot of assumptions here if you wish to go for metagaming your free to post your own case and evidence in your own report.
On the fact of knowing who was there it seems your bois already somehow confirmed Cj and his crew was there with your broadcast which is strange as you've never met my character before and I was the one who initiated at the front using blue armbands and not ours.

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YAKMOUTH - 3 hours ago
[RADIO BROADCAST]: *static Hector's voice can be heard* "Nice try CJ... Me and my men would never give up anything, I'll see you around!"

 

That broadcast has to do with an entirely different situation IC that has nothing to do with the base in question. My character met Russo at the gate is very familiar with CJ so no one has made any accusations that he or his boys were there. And as stated before. The base is not in fact a cartel base, so it is strange to assume that broadcast has anything to do with this situation ICly.

[Ice]

48 minutes ago, Eagle said:

Seem to be allot of assumptions here if you wish to go for metagaming your free to post your own case and evidence in your own report.
On the fact of knowing who was there it seems your bois already somehow confirmed Cj's crew was there with your broadcast which is strange as you've never met my character before and I was the one who initiated at the front using blue armbands and not ours.

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YAKMOUTH - 3 hours ago
[RADIO BROADCAST]: *static Hector's voice can be heard* "Nice try CJ... Me and my men would never give up anything, I'll see you around!"

 

I am not discussing assumptions this whole situation occurred because someone apparently assumed this was a cartel base, It does not seem likely for such an assumption but it is claimed as such, it is icly known that the Boy Noah is endorsed actively by 5.0.3 this is not hard knowledge to come by I do not speak for actions of others I can assure you that no one took info of groups and affiliations from forums icly.