Remove the destructibility of gas stations

[Zanaan]

So too often I see people running around Sitnik and other towns blowing up the gas stations, and I quote from a report today, the 'lols'. This not only seems trolly, but also unrealistic as the pumps just autofix at restart. Compounding with the fact they use the same sound effect as grenades, often it can be confused for an attack as well. So yeah, I honestly believe the ability to destroy the gas pumps (and the subsequent explosion) should be removed, as it doesn't really bring anything to roleplay other than 'look at this', or to grief nearby people. Opinions?

[Ducky]

If you see something trolly then why not just report it?

 

Randomly shooting gas pumps to make them blow up is no different than shooting mines or throwing grenades randomly.
 

And speaking from a purely developer standpoint from here on out:
Why spend a lot of time removing a feature that really isn't that bothersome?

 

I don't see a point in removing the feature.

[Onion]

So do we need to ban people from throwing grenades when not in a firefight too?

Whilst the suggestion is admirable, and I understand where you are coming from; I disagree.

Only a couple hours ago, we used the explosion and smoke to try bait out our enemies from hiding behind their walls. That has added to my role play experience.

There are alot of features and mechanics in this game, and the beauty of role play is that we can use them to any extend imaginable dependant on creativity.

I implore the developers to add more features like this to the game.

And as @Ducky said, that would be a huge waste of time for the devs to crop that minuscule nit-picky thing out when they could be spending their time on things that will actually benefit the entire community.

Edited February 7, 2020 by OnionRingOfDoom

[neom]

I dont really get this?

Its seems to be more of a you problem then a server issue. 

I do not see it as trolly as I ahve used it in game and got RP out of it, when people see the smoke they come running and then stories are started. 

As for it being close to Sitnik and you mistaking it for an attack well again thats a you problem and maybe you should be more aware of the camp and its surroundings. 

Sorry 

[Zanaan]

4 minutes ago, Ducky said:

If you see something trolly then why not just report it?

Because it isn't easy to report always. For example, today I may know that certain people were involved, but then how many times have I logged in only to find all the gas pumps smoking and not have a means to identify who? As far as I'm aware there's no logs for it. And I don't see any purpose to the feature other than the fact you can do it.

[Para]

Don't think it makes that big of a difference, don't see much reason to remove it /shrug

If somebody's RP is bad, report it. No need to remove a feature because a couple people spoil it.

[AndreyQ]

1 minute ago, Zanaan said:

how many times have I logged in only to find all the gas pumps smoking and not have a means to identify who?

so if you log in and see the pumps smoking how do you know people were doing it for no reason?

Honestly this seems unnecessary. If people troll report it. We have position logs so if you around when it happens it's pretty easy to find the culprits.

[Ducky]

4 minutes ago, Zanaan said:

Because it isn't easy to report always. For example, today I may know that certain people were involved, but then how many times have I logged in only to find all the gas pumps smoking and not have a means to identify who? As far as I'm aware there's no logs for it. And I don't see any purpose to the feature other than the fact you can do it.

Maybe they're trying to keep your fuel supply low?

Force you to drive to a gas station further away to lure you out?

 

As for something not being easy to report, nothing usually is. Reports are usually never clear-cut from the get-go.
If you didn't actively see who blew it up, you couldn't possibly know why?

I'll reiterate back to my original point, this is a tiny feature that barely affects gameplay, and spending time and resources finding the script and then figuring out how to disable it is really not something worth wasting time on, especially when said script even has uses for roleplay.

[Eagle]

Simple answer no.

Edited February 7, 2020 by Eagle

[Brayces]

Don't really see the point in removing this function. I rarely see them blown up and if they are it's not a serious immersion ruining matter.

I see people do a ton of shit for the "Lols" all the time. People who spam music over VoIP, people who use lingo invented in 2019 when the world pop culture ceased in 2017, people having Go Pros strapped to their chests recording footage, people who shoot and punch each other for fun, chuck grenades or flashbangs at one another. I've seen a bunch of these yet never reported them because it's always been so minuscule it doesn't matter. And if it does, then report it for BadRP.

If you don't encounter it as it happens, assume someone had been there recently and adjust your RP. They could of literally been in some serious RP and hit the gas station you have no idea. Like a fire fight, or a stand off. It marks that someone was there, and left a trace of their presence.

Maybe you see the smoke and are like "Whoa! Better not go this way, people were here." Or vice versa. Maybe you're like "Whoa, shit! People! I hope I see them soon!"

If you do encounter someone shooting it for the "lols" and it's a bad enough case then go ahead and report it as Trolling or BadRP and let Staff handle it. 

[Finn]

It's already been proven that gas tanks / pump dont blow up when shot by traditional ammunition. If anything it will only turn into a uncontrollable fire.

When I see people shoot a gas pump, it's usually because they're bored. I really see no strategically use of blowing up gas tanks other than to deny others the use of it which 90% of the time isnt the reason the blow it up.

They blow it up cause they can.

[Player 1]

I'm fine with them being unstable and easy to destroy and blow up. Makes driving around them all the more riskier and people avoid them when in combat due to this possibility. They've never been an issue so I don't see a point in changing it. 

[Guest]

But it's a feature of the game. 

If people do it repeatedly and/or in a trolly matter, just report them, there's no harm in that. 

[Eddie]

I'm fine with the gas stations as they are. Like others have stated above if it's done in a trolly manner just report them. At the end of the day it's a feature of the game and I like it imo.

[Mike]

If only you knew the pain the it would cause someone to have to sift through the game files to find a singular script dealing with the destructibility of a gas pump entity you would not have made this suggestion lol

[Ron]

If you don't want the gas station to be blown up, don't shoot at them. If some punks blow up some gas , react to it. If the gas station is fixed after a restart , maybe it was just a gas canteen that blew up or one of the pump had left some actual gas from the gasoline in the pipe. Do not restrict yourself but role play around it.

-1

additional: to remove something because some people abuse it or use it "for the lols" is the complete wrong way to look at a situation, imo. It restricts everyone in the end, not only the ones who struggle to behave. Instead of focusing on deleting something from the game or add another rule, speak to the people and if they don't listen , to staff. 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Ron

[Terra]

40 minutes ago, Ron said:

If you don't want the gas station to be blown up, don't shoot at them. If some punks blow up some gas , react to it. If the gas station is fixed after a restart , maybe it was just a gas canteen that blew up or one of the pump had left some actual gas from the gasoline in the pipe. Do not restrict yourself but role play around it.

-1

additional: to remove something because some people abuse it or use it "for the lols" is the complete wrong way to look at a situation, imo. It restricts everyone in the end, not only the ones who struggle to behave. Instead of focusing on deleting something from the game or add another rule, speak to the people and if they don't listen , to staff. 

What she said ^

I fail to understand why this seem to bother you. Sry.

Roleplay it out. There are many ways like mentioned above ^

[Challenger]

Wait! Someone blew the petrol station right next to my base up? Blasphemy, I shall immediately report to the forums and have this removed. Unacceptable for people to try and blow up the petrol stations to gain control of the fuel supply. 

This suggestion seems to be made because someone is upsetti-spaghetti that they can't have an unlimited supply of fuel right next to there base. Like others have said, this could be IC fuelled to lure you to another petrol station, etc.

-1 Roleplay it out and quit your bitching. 

 

Edited February 7, 2020 by Challenger

[Law]

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[Ryan Shepherd]

This is up there with the most unnecessary suggestion known to DayZRP history. Almost as bad as some recent tendies! Sorry Zanaan.

The Joyces have been the culprit the entire time, we've been siphoning the fuel for weeks and igniting the left overs in order to starve Sitnik of fuel!

We will return the fuel for a lump sum of tyres, thank you.

[JasonBR]

Yeah no, -1

I've used gas stations to draw hordes to attack bases before. It's actually useful for RP.

I don't see how it's a problem considering it was in 0.62 (admittedly it was much more difficult to do back then but it could be done)

 

[dan]

They're fun to blow up tbh

Good way to spend all that 5.56

It's also very easy to just say "We believed a group we are at battle with is chasing us in a vehicle" then it was justified.

[HDragon]

I agree that there is an element that blowing up pumps for no reason is pretty trolly.

On the other hand though I have used the gas pumps as an execution device that works quite well.

[Jim Smokes]

7 hours ago, Zanaan said:

So too often I see people running around Sitnik and other towns blowing up the gas stations, and I quote from a report today, the 'lols'. This not only seems trolly, but also unrealistic as the pumps just autofix at restart. Compounding with the fact they use the same sound effect as grenades, often it can be confused for an attack as well. So yeah, I honestly believe the ability to destroy the gas pumps (and the subsequent explosion) should be removed, as it doesn't really bring anything to roleplay other than 'look at this', or to grief nearby people. Opinions?

I'm a little confused here, could you elaborate on why you think its trolly and how it griefs nearby people?

I mean, we might as well ban smoke grenades and grenades on that exact same logic as thats a huge area of the game where players are mostly being joking around with them and tossing them into fields with their friends. But players could easily mistake them for an attack if nearby right?

And then next we can make it so you cant shoot your gun unless killing a zombie or a player because it might make it seem like there's an attack going on.

I just dont really get it? I understand the point of realism and they shouldn't be blown up every day for years on end, but outside of that I dont really follow and would appreciate some clarification. I get that it's trolly in the sense that some players shoot them just for the sake of shooting them, but if I was in the apocalypse I'd shoot at stuff to make it explode too. Take the scenes of Zombieland for example, in the movie where they talk about 'enjoying the little things' and in one scene go through and destroy a store just because they can and society has ended. I hardly can understand how it's trolly but I understand how as a player living there you may perceive it as so.

Edited February 7, 2020 by Jim Smokes

[Guest Generic Name]

Didn't realize they could blow up, I guess I've been missing out on the fun. Oh wait, did we ban fun yet?