Character Concept Idea / Unsure if it would be allowed.

[Padlock]

Me and a friend of mine where wanting to put together a couple of characters, but are unsure if the concept would be allowed. The basic idea is characters on a time limit, infected by a disease (Such as a flesh eating virus). While thinking of this concept the topic was brought up that if these characters where doomed to die from this disease, would they still have to be afraid of death/feel pain? I would even be up for the idea of making them KOSable, or PK them if killed. Just thought it was an interesting idea, would like to know if this would be possible to do.

[Player 1]

As I understand the rules, you have to fear for your life and value your life at all times. (basically you have to be wuss when faced with an execution) Could we play characters that do not fear for thier lives? Maybe they fear pain or can feel it but do not fear death? 

Edited February 3, 2020 by Tiger-chan

[Guest]

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Edited April 19, 2020 by Guest

[Banshee]

A character like this would be allowed, but it will not exempt you from rule 3.2 (NVFL). You would still have to act in the interest of your characters life, and although your character may or may not fear death, it would not be an excuse for you to not value your characters life.

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3.2 Your character must behave realistically and appropriately to the different situations you participate in, keeping the current world situation and context of post-apocalyptic world in mind. Do not act in a way that indicates no value for your characters life and survival. For example, attempting to kill people when heavily outnumbered, excessively talking back or insulting someone when taken hostage, or knowingly running into an area of active hostile engagement when not involved in the fight. Characters found guilty of breaking this rule will be permanently marked as dead.

 

Fearing death and valuing your life are two seperate things. One can be acceptant of the fact that they will one day die, but still act in their own interest of survival. The same goes for pain, as one may or may not fair pain, but they will still feel it, regardless of if they fear it or not.

If you were to be taken hostage, you would still have to act in the interest of your character's survival. You would be able to give some interesting roleplay, explaining that your character already knows that he will die one day, and therefore does not fear his demise, but that does not mean that you can simply act reckless and/or tell them to "Kill me, because I do not care". If you were to be tortured, your character may not fear the pain that is about to be put upon them, but they would still feel it.

Character like this have been played in the past, such as masochist characters, who enjoy the pain that is inflicted on them. As long as the roleplay provided by these character is realistic and enjoyable, than I don't think anyone would mind if you or your friends were to play one.

Regarding PKing your character, that is always up to you. If you feel that whatever death may have happened in-game is worthy of your character being PKed, than you are free to do so. The only exception to this is if you are found guilty of breaking the NVFL rule, in that case, your character will be forcefully PKed as is the rule.

I wanna close this off by warning you though, as characters like these can be hard to play and make feel realistic and can quickly come over as NVFL if not done right.

Edited February 3, 2020 by Banshee

[Maybelele]

Imo if u want to do a char that is dying of an infection. But it doesn't conflict with lore then... why not? If you want it to conflict with lore then contact staff i guess to get approval
Cool idea tho. A long time ago i was in a situation where a guy came up to a camp, he wasn't feeling well. His group came to pick him up. 10 min later they all came back with the man, but the man was now RPing as an infected and had to be put down. That's an example of what u can do.

I dont need to touch the "Isn't scared about death" because i see someone allready explained it.

[AndreyQ]

you can as long as there is good RP leading to your death

if I just rock up with 5 lads and initiate on you and you try to fight back, that's NVFL regardless of your character's mental state, cause then everyone would say they got a sickness or something

so if you get taken hostage and start getting questioned for example and start RPing how you are dying and it doesn't matter if they kill you, I'd see no issue with it

[LagIsMyExcuse]

4 hours ago, William89 said:

There used to be this great RPer: @LagIsMyExcuse who played a crazy person who had escaped from an asylum... was his name Joe?????

 

His character did not fear death. He would tell his hostage takers to punch him again, and things like that, in a way that was funny and not trolly at all! XD! I do not know how he went with the rules... I think that he just trusted that nobody was going to report him. I miss interacting with his weird characters

I VERY much appreciate you saying I'm a great RP'er though sometimes I tend to disagree, I'm sure most of us are insecure about our RP abilities considering some of the talents we run into on this server.

NVFL is a very tough one for a few reasons. I 100% understand the reasoning for it to be on the server, but there needs to be a balance. For example, my character, Jason Poe, was insane. He grew up in very abusive situations and the idea of physical pain was actually a comfort to him. I could argue as the creator of the character that he did fear death. Anyone in his situation who did not would have ended their own life long before, but he did not fear pain and found comfort in it.

This is a very thin line to toe on this server. I felt comfortable with my ability to play this character in most situations as I understood or could tell those I was interacting with were enjoying the RP and providing RP back based on this character trait. This lead to some of the most enjoyable and amazing RP interactions I've had on this server. Especially considering that although they were the ones with the upper-hand on me, I was still able to cause them discomfort and fear, which was amazing RP on their part as well.

Where this gets problematic is with hostile groups who's main focus is not specifically RP, but rather gain power over other players and ultimately may even be looking for a reason to kill you. My style of RP playing this character and interacting with some of those groups lead to premature deaths and resulted in very little RP for both sides. Those people could very well take to the forums and report me for NVFL and may even win because in situations where they are quick to end the interaction it would very much appear I was asking for it. Those situations did happen to me, but the groups it happens with unless it results in one of them getting killed will rarely file reports. So in these instances, I would chalk it up to "conflicting RP styles" and went along my way.

[Eagle]

Unless your nervous system is none existent yes since your not the terminator just because of an infection.

[Rover]

10 hours ago, Padlock said:

Me and a friend of mine where wanting to put together a couple of characters, but are unsure if the concept would be allowed. The basic idea is characters on a time limit, infected by a disease (Such as a flesh eating virus). While thinking of this concept the topic was brought up that if these characters where doomed to die from this disease, would they still have to be afraid of death/feel pain? I would even be up for the idea of making them KOSable, or PK them if killed. Just thought it was an interesting idea, would like to know if this would be possible to do.

 

I have played a character that, by his own words, was "On his way out" from a terminal illness.

No, you don't get to play as being immune to pain/fear, just because you know you are going to die. You still have to demonstrate value for their life. When I played this character, he was willing and ready to sacrifice himself to die for someone else, and that was how he wound up being permed and his arc ended. Its a good arc to go with, but you don't get immunity to the NVFL rule because you know you are gonna die! Make sure you still play them realistically, and if you ever die to a situation where you feel a different character would have lived, perm them yourself as a gesture of good faith. 

It doesn't mean you won't potentially get reported for NVFL if it was blatant, but at least you had initiative and a good IC reason.