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Ruleplay Appeal

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Why the verdict is not fair: I got banned for "ruleplay" when I just killed a person who KOS'd Dew, I believe if I killed the rest of wolfpack that had nothing to do with the killing then it would have been ruleplay.

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There is a bit of relevant history that our group has with the Wolf Pack. The two groups have had multiple gunfights with each other, there has been losses on both sides, and both sides have started them. Hostages from both groups have been taken Our group members IC for the most part DO NOT LIKE the Wolf Pack and view most of them as "weak" (please see our group page regarding this) An arrangement at peace was attempted and this resulted in the death of Nik and I by members of the Wolfpack who basically backstabbed us/and or was really an ambush in our eyes. This information was given to the Jackals through IC means by someone present at the situation, Basically as it seemed to our members IG, the actions were done by people low in the WP ranks and the higher ups didn't really do much about it in the way we would have expected them to deal with it (eye for an eye minimum). After this, peace was somewhat achieved and we moved into the compound with the WP. Please note that this is at best what could be described as a very fragile peace.

We roleplayed with the wolfpack that were in the truck the whole way up, figuring out what had happened, why they did it etc. We told them that we wanted them outside the prison and I believe Dustup said he wanted them tied up. Hutch tells us these 2 were not high ranks within wolfpack, and knowing what happened last time where the leaders of WP did not do anything about it, we were going to deal with it on our own. When we showed up, we were faced with two still armed members not tied up as requested on at least 1 occassion, and us with by a few WP members in view and not knowing whether there were more hidden in the prison building, or any other surrounding building that had eyes and positions on us on us. As the stream shows the two murderers didn't give a shit about what they had done. No fear, no attempt to get ahead and try and apologise, no concern shown etc, just a very uncaring "im here what do you want" attitude. There was absolutely no emotion shown at all despite them KNOWING what they had done and why we were likely there. This leads us to the only conclusion we could, that they didn't care what they had done, and to us they had to die for their actions, and this had to be done quickly to avoid anyone trying to interfere or rescue them and to deny us our justice. We had good IC reasons for all of this.

What would you like to achieve with this appeal: Points removed and hopefully ban too

What could you have done better?: Talked to them a little more than just saying "Dewski sends his regards" and then shooting them

Edited by Bobby-kun

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Greetings Bobby-kun,

A separate team of the staff has looked over your appeal and has came to the conclusion to deny it.

The reason for the denial is because you clearly prioritized rule play over role play. You explained there was a buildup and you role played with the wolfpack on the way up which is great but the same cannot be said for the victims there was no role play and there was no build up and this is the role play that should have mattered. You used the rights you gain just because you could and provided absolutely no role play, you got out your truck asked who they were and immediately shot.

You explain in your appeal “as the stream shows the two murders didn’t give a shit about what they had done. No fear, no attempt to get ahead and try and apologies no concern shown etc, just a very uncaring "I''m here what do you want" attitude. There was absolutely no emotion shown at all “

You would not have known what role play they would have had, when everyone got out the truck at 4.33.54 the first person is shot at 4.34.14 on the stream. That is a total of 20 seconds from when you all got out the truck to the victims dying all they had time for was confirming who they are as soon as it is confirmed it is Ivan and Alex before Alex’s full name is given the gun is out

The rule that was broken was

 3.3 You may not focus on out of character gains to the detriment of RP. For example, "rule play" is prioritizing things like kill rights or OOC information above more appropriate IC actions or behavior. Always prioritize role play over rule play.

We feel you broke this rule, you did have valid defender rights but "you must always prioritize role play over rule play" which is why you were found guilty of rule play as you did not prioritize the role play of the people that were killed. 

A lot of role play could have came from this, both did not have a weapon out you could have easily have taken them hostage and role played and build up the story line, then you could have execute them for murdering your friend if you still wished too or tortured them and taught them a lesson, not immediately take the gun and immediately gun them down when you realized you had rights on them that is rule play. You closed any role play opportunities that could have come from this interaction.

With that said.

APPEAL DENIED

Signed by: @Scarlett, @Rover, @Peril

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