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Server and location: Chernarus US, Dichina Military base

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): Not sure, in between 11AM and 2PM Roughly. 

Your in game name: Joshua Speirs

Names of allies involved: Today at Dichina was me @speirs, @Woodsy and the two colton brothers. 

Name of suspect/s: "The Colton Brothers" or whatever their names are, idk their forum names.

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): No vehicles were involved.

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): I have a video of my RDM however my voice cannot be heard but i can try and type from memory of what was said

Detailed description of the events: 

Events in Dichina: I had just awoken down in pavlovo from antics yesterday. i made my way up to vybor to meet up with my friend woodsy to make our way to redwood radio (our current home), he hadn't been "awake" in almost a week and he was near by and i didn't wanna make the walk myself. So we met in vybor next to the police station and headed east bound and saw the dichina military base and ran over (this is now when the recording starts because my shadow-play is set to record the last 7 Mins 30 Seconds... we cleared a few barracks before we noticed someone at the crates which i made woodsy aware of, but only saw one man, we continued looting and then the man approached us normally talking to us, then his friend appears out of nowhere and initiates on us, he had no reason to hold us up and claimed they were doing a health check, i was already inside the barrack and they told woodsy to go inside, where then they told us to strip and asked for  a radio then they searched everything we had, then they went liked what we had and took some of it even tho it was a "health check", they then proceeded to engage in small talk with both me and woodsy. then at the end (as seen in the video) the guy in the back said its just a health and wellness inspection and said were not taking anything then i replied with "you still have my suppressor can i get that back?" and the man who was in-front of me (who i clearly wasn't talking to) said "You don't tell me what to do, are you telling me what to do? then i replied with "i don't need the suppressor but its only cause you said you weren't taking stuff" then the guy in the background proceeded to say something like "Bitch put him down" and then i was killed.

I apologize for my microphone not working with shadow play as i use an external headset with a studio microphone.

after the events that unfolded, i told my friend to give my discord to them so i could speak to them, in the call they were claiming and trying to persuade me that it was a mistake and i was buying it, they were also saying to me that i shouldn't report them and they would do anything, and asked if i needed any favors and i said to them its fine if it was a mistake which it clearly is not as i revise the video and everything else, as well as the encounter at redwood yesterday which me and my friends will call in our POV'S. at the end of the call when i said its fine its cool they started to get really sarcastic and shit, then they both hung up. on the call they told me they never took anything from me or my friend and they just left it, however i'm missing my AKM, a south face jacket and quite a bit of my gear and most if not all of my friends gear as well.

 

list of rules i feel were broken from the perspectives given:
3.2 Your character must behave realistically and appropriately to the different situations you participate in, keeping the current world situation and context of post-apocalyptic world in mind. Do not act in a way that indicates no value for your characters life and survival. For example, attempting to kill people when heavily outnumbered, excessively talking back or insulting someone when taken hostage, or knowingly running into an area of active hostile engagement when not involved in the fight. Characters found guilty of breaking this rule will be permanently marked as dead. 

4.4 Hostile situations must focus on the role play experience of both attackers and victims. Both sides should actively participate and contribute to role play in all situations, any disputes or issues can be discussed and resolved afterwards. As an attacker you may NOT:

Attack other players just for the sake of gear by doing a quick robbery that involves little to no role play. (they had literally no reason to hold us up and strip us and rob us apart from a "health check" or whatever bs they stated, when they're a small unknown group with no influence what so ever, they provided no good role-play for us neither and was clearly gearRP as they liked what my friend had and took some of my stuff as well)

 

4.5 Combat logging is leaving the server during or shortly after a hostile situation or when your character is still involved in active role play. After a hostile action has occurred where you were involved, you may only log out from the game after a minimum of 30 minutes have passed since you broke the line of sight with others involved in that situation. This rule can be ignored if the other players give you OK to log out earlier.
(i believe one of them logged off because afterwords when i was in a call with them (as i had already explained) one of them said for them to load back in)
*edited for spelling errors and punctuation correction.*

Edited by speirs
spelling correction and punctuation correction.

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Connection Logs:

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13:51:27 | Player "Joshua Speirs" is connected
- Dead -
14:13:06 | Player "Joshua Speirs" has been disconnected

13:50:12 | Player "Aki Colton" is connected
14:15:20 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected
14:20:22 | Player "Aki Colton" is connected
14:35:21 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected
14:55:20 | Player "Aki Colton" is connected
15:08:19 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected

13:52:32 | Player "Lewis Moore" is connected
15:03:31 | Player "Lewis Moore" has been disconnected
15:11:28 | Player "Lewis Moore" is connected
15:28:25 | Player "Lewis Moore" has been disconnected

13:52:47 | Player "Carl Colton" is connected
14:35:39 | Player "Carl Colton" has been disconnected
14:53:41 | Player "Carl Colton" is connected
15:18:24 | Player "Carl Colton" has been disconnected

Hit Logs:

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14:09:01 | Player "Joshua Speirs" hit by AK74

Kill Logs:

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14:09:01 | Player "Joshua Speirs" (DEAD) killed by Player "Aki Colton" with AK-74 from 0.84608 meters

Chat Logs:

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14:00:54 | Chat("Joshua Speirs"): // died lol
14:55:23 | Chat("Joshua Speirs"): // someone just RDM'D me
14:57:18 | Chat("Joshua Speirs"): // just got rdm'd by colton brothers

14:09:18 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //DO U KNOW HIS FORUM NAME
14:09:38 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //if u talk with him tell him i will let him have his shit
14:09:48 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //it was an accident
14:10:21 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //is he mad?
14:10:48 | Chat("Aki Colton"): /WHAT IS HIS FORUM NAME?

14:09:26 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): yeah
14:10:51 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): he said
14:11:07 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): speirs 9310
14:11:09 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): discord

Calling in the following people to post their Point of Views & any video evidence they may have:
@speirs | Joshua Speirs | OP
@Soap | Aki Colton | POSTED
@Woodsy | Lewis Moore | POSTED
@ScreenedAbrown | Carl Colton | POSTED

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MY POV

having run from vybor with Joshua, we went to see what loot we could find at the military area stated in the video! while i was searching I was greeted by one of the Colton brothers (with the green cap) and we exchanged normal friendly greetings. about 40 seconds of talking went by and I was then told to raise my hands in the air and proceed to walk into the building by the other brother who did not make himself known to me or Joshua. there was no indication on why we were being held up right away and then the colton brothers proceeded to tell us we are not here to take your gear but are conducting a "health check" stated in the video. my friend then said "well could we have our stuff back or you don't need to take our clothes away" something along the lines of that. they proceeded to say "you're free to go but we are not so sure about your friend" in which Joshua replied about the suppressor and the incident was to follow with the death.

 

afterwards we did exchange noted details (seen in chat logs) and worded conversation regarding the incident they did seem genuinely sorry for the death against my friend but the discord call I cant comment on. the colton brothers abruptly left after telling me we are leaving his gear on the ground which I picked up and moved to redwood radio station to meet up with another friend where I logged off.  I do not know personally what they took of Joshua as I only collected what was left on the ground. however for my gear I was missing a helmet, NVGS, Glock and various items which I am going to state here I am not bothered about being robbed gear is gear its replaced. 

 

That was my POV of the incident stated in the video. I don't have any further evidence as I don't record my gameplay and I was not at the incident at redwood the previous day so I cant add anything to that

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For the events at the Vybor Military base we were truly checking up on these guys looking for the "yellow armband" people that we aren't necessarily in good terms with. We had no intentions in killing this man or harming either of them at all. We called it a "health and wellness inspection" where we just make sure that they are not a threat to us or our brothers in the present or future. It is pretty convenient that you don't have your own voice on the video especially since you were disrespecting us the little you did talk. I did take his friends NVG's but we left them with extra gear that we had not taken from them. After Soap had killed the other man on accident we had left all of his gear in place and during the discord call we had earlier he stated that all of his stuff was there with his friend and that is was good and clearly didn't have any problem with us taking some of his friends gear which was like I said a "NVG with helmet" at least from my end. and the rules that he claims we have broken he broke some in his own doing. Him and his friend had no emotion when we were with them and were quiet for most of the time. As for the Redwood incident, they are correct we wouldn't surrender because the religion we were sporting at the time gave us justification to do such things and the doctrine preaches a paradise of an afterlife if you die a just death or for your god. The hostages that we had, almost all of them DM'd us thanking us for the good roleplay and that they hadn't had such an experience in a long time. I believe him bringing up the Redwood incident is just trying to add to the mistake that my brother had done on ACCIDENT and making the weight fall on top of us because he is salty but hey whatever the outcome is I won't be as upset about it. It might just be me but this feels like an unfair crusade against me and my friends...

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I was not the one who ran out of the building screaming that I was the first one killed. and you are right about becoming a bigger target but at the time we were trying to keep a low profile. We don't hold up everyone we see in fact we are nice to almost everyone and give them stuff that they need including weapons and ammo. and as for being salty i'm talking about the guy that my brother had accidently killed. No worries let's just get on with this...

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First of all very convenient of you to have your voice ''missing.'' and lets first talk about the redwood incident. Your saying it was bad RP situation? The people me and Screenedabrown held hostage literally after the incident thanked us for good rp and that they havent experienced hostile rp for a while. Me and my brother were roleplaying as radical religious people. We held up the redwood radio people for the broadcast to advertise our religion and our Colton family and our way of life. Me and Screenedabrown had this interaction with the hostages for maybe about an hour providing good immersive roleplay. When we were about to leave I dropped my lockpick on the ground  and it glitched and made me not able to unlock the doors and leave the redwood radio which we were about to do so I had to relog from the game and what I didnt realise is the que was 30 people so I had to wait like an hour to get back into the server while Screenedabrown is guarding the hostages till i get back. While im gone Screenedabrown gets confronted by group of at least 3 guys and they stated that theres 8 of them which was a lie. Screenedabrown told the rescuers that he will shoot hostages (which was just a threat) if they start breaching inside the redwood compound which makes it unrealistic for them to try to get in which they did compromising the lifes of the hostages. They opened the door to the redwood compound so my friend starts shooting at them and also hits one of the hostages in crossfire but doesnt kill him. When I log in like 20 minutes later this incident because of the que and server restart. I log into the server and I ask ''who killed my brother'' and one of the rescuers said ''Me and I enjoyed killing him'' Then they tell me to put my hands up after one of them saying that he enjoyed killing my brother. After that I rush them with my AKM blined by anger because of my brother being killed by one of em and also being stated that he enjoyed it. I saw three people outside one with no gun and then I get sprayed and I die trying to avenge my brothers death. Realistically you would definately not surrender to people who had just killed your brother and said that he enjoyed killing him. Realistically you would be filled with anger and grief.

I would love the hostages to bring up their points of view of the incident.

The reason we held these two gentlemen up in VMC is because we had a hostile interaction with some people who had yellow armbands before so we were sketched out by everyone we saw as you can see by the way I behave we were paranoid as you can see in the video we were really sketched out by one of the dudes backpack having yellow armbands. We were still paranoid after our hostile experience with those people who had yellow armbands. It was definately not gear RP.  We were really interactive with you guys providing immersive hostile RP. You said that it would be unrealistic for me to rush your group because I was outnumbered and seemed like I wasnt scared to do it and not valuing my life but at same time while we are holding you up you act disrespectfully, acting emotionless and barely even talking and being quiet a lot so in the video it is very convenient for you to not have your voice in the video. About your death. I am sorry it was a clear accident. I did not know that hitting someone with a rifle can kill them so quickly because I have done that before and no one had never died of it. I clearly stated that I am sorry in the chat and that I tried to get in contact with you and solve the problem. I do apologize for this accident but I refuse to apologize for the other stuff you are accusing me of. We did leave your gear and we also never said that we didn't take stuff from your friend. I took your friends AKM and a vest which had a pistol in it because I did not want him to start shooting at us with this AKM after we leave because we did not trust him because he said he is associated with Wolfpack which we have had some quarrels with in the past. For speirs stuff we left literally everything we left his AKM and his backpack which had a lot of guns like MP5 and M1A. We did not take any of his stuff so him lacking his stuff is his friend not either picking it up or his friend took it for himself since we took his AKM and pistol. Hes friend still had back up weapons that we left for example speirs:s stuff that we left on the ground and also my friends winchester that he left on the ground for them so we did leave his friend with weapons so he could defend himself and we did not take any of speirs stuff.

I would like to expose speirs for his own rule breaking 

4.4 Hostile situations must focus on the role play experience of both attackers and victims. Both sides should actively participate and contribute to role play in all situations, any disputes or issues can be discussed and resolved afterwards.

As a victim you may NOT:

Pretend to be fearless, emotionless, not feel pain, or otherwise be unaffected by the situation where your life is at risk in a hostile situation.

Be passive during the hostile role play and refuse to actively participate in it. Just sitting there and not contributing to role play can make the situation very boring for the attackers.

He was mostly quiet and the little amount he spoke was disrespectful. He did not seem to value his life at all as he seemed so calm about the situation with me roleplaying you can see my character is on the hinge acting very emotionally as you can see when I yell them to put hands up and raise my voice in certain situation etc since realistically In a situation like that I would be adrenaline filled unlike speirs who was super calm barely even talking and when he did he spoke with a normal voice acting disrespectfully and asking to get his gear back.Which again I will repeat very convenient to not have your voice on the video.

I would also like expose him for another rule break 

3.6 Using OOC communications like Discord, TeamSpeak or others to transmit or receive information related to in game situations is only allowed when you have a personal radio item in your inventory. As soon as your character loses the ability to speak or use the radio - for example has died, is unconscious, has been gagged, is surrendering (F1 or F2 animation), is handcuffed or had your radio item or clothing containing it removed from your inventory - you may not receive or transmit any in game information through OOC communications. While in presence of other players all such communication should also be transmitted in game using "double mic" mechanic. This means transmitting both through in game VOIP and external software simultaneously.

As you can see in the video he is using discord at 6:32 even though he does not have a personal radio item in his inventory and also if he did have it hidden somewhere which he didnt he couldnt of been talking there since he had his hands up. Also one reason to not have his voice on the video and probably the reason he was so quiet.

Reporting people for no good reason is very toxic for the community.

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1 hour ago, ScreenedAbrown said:

For the events at the Vybor Military base we were truly checking up on these guys looking for the "yellow armband" people that we aren't necessarily in good terms with. We had no intentions in killing this man or harming either of them at all. We called it a "health and wellness inspection" where we just make sure that they are not a threat to us or our brothers in the present or future. It is pretty convenient that you don't have your own voice on the video especially since you were disrespecting us the little you did talk. I did take his friends NVG's but we left them with extra gear that we had not taken from them. After Soap had killed the other man on accident we had left all of his gear in place and during the discord call we had earlier he stated that all of his stuff was there with his friend and that is was good and clearly didn't have any problem with us taking some of his friends gear which was like I said a "NVG with helmet" at least from my end. and the rules that he claims we have broken he broke some in his own doing. Him and his friend had no emotion when we were with them and were quiet for most of the time. As for the Redwood incident, they are correct we wouldn't surrender because the religion we were sporting at the time gave us justification to do such things and the doctrine preaches a paradise of an afterlife if you die a just death or for your god. The hostages that we had, almost all of them DM'd us thanking us for the good roleplay and that they hadn't had such an experience in a long time. I believe him bringing up the Redwood incident is just trying to add to the mistake that my brother had done on ACCIDENT and making the weight fall on top of us because he is salty but hey whatever the outcome is I won't be as upset about it. It might just be me but this feels like an unfair crusade against me and my friends...

You do realize you can be perma-banned for lying on forum reports right? not once was i rude or offending to you at all in game... and saying we engaged in little talk and role-play when you can clearly see the microphone icon being used a lot on my recording as well as my friend speaking to you both as well... as well as that we were complying with everything that you had said to please explain to me how i "disrespected" you as well as me and my friending having "no emotion" and how we were "quiet most of the time too".

best to spare everyone the bullshit than to dig yourself deeper mate, i suggest you go back onto the rule page as well and have a good and deep reading of all of them...

quite stupid of you guys to check up on everyone that you see for "yellow armbands" considering you only mentioned it WHEN YOU SAW IT IN MY FRIENDS INVENTORY.. its just funny, and if you had no intentions of killing me then why did you said "bitch put him down" when i asked about my suppressor because you said that you weren't taking anything lol, and your group is really really unknown as well so how are you doing a "health and wellness inspection" so were not a threat to you right now or in the future hahahaha.

and on discord, you said you didn't take anything of anyone's and you had just left, and you both were really sincere and apologetic which i appreciate and i decided not to put it up until i realized you both lied to me for the betterment of yourself, also dont you have a previous ban for something similar to do with rdm?

also their is no point in trying to turn this around and lie on a forum post, for the betterment of yourself and your role-play experience, stop lying here, and to yourself.

 

and no matter your religion, its still a rule, you need to respect your player-characters life., and no im not only bringing up the redwood incident to worsen the incident at all, it was actually @Blakstadthat suggested it to me, none of this was accidental, remember you said "bitch put him down" in the vid.......

and i dont see how this is a crusade against your friends considering this is the first report that has been made against you with my friends.

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1 minute ago, speirs said:

You do realize you can be perma-banned for lying on forum reports right? not once was i rude or offending to you at all in game... and saying we engaged in little talk and role-play when you can clearly see the microphone icon being used a lot on my recording as well as my friend speaking to you both as well... as well as that we were complying with everything that you had said to please explain to me how i "disrespected" you as well as me and my friending having "no emotion" and how we were "quiet most of the time too".

best to spare everyone the bullshit than to dig yourself deeper mate, i suggest you go back onto the rule page as well and have a good and deep reading of all of them...

quite stupid of you guys to check up on everyone that you see for "yellow armbands" considering you only mentioned it WHEN YOU SAW IT IN MY FRIENDS INVENTORY.. its just funny, and if you had no intentions of killing me then why did you said "bitch put him down" when i asked about my suppressor because you said that you weren't taking anything lol, and your group is really really unknown as well so how are you doing a "health and wellness inspection" so were not a threat to you right now or in the future hahahaha.

and on discord, you said you didn't take anything of anyone's and you had just left, and you both were really sincere and apologetic which i appreciate and i decided not to put it up until i realized you both lied to me for the betterment of yourself, also dont you have a previous ban for something similar to do with rdm?

also their is no point in trying to turn this around and lie on a forum post, for the betterment of yourself and your role-play experience, stop lying here, and to yourself.

 

and no matter your religion, its still a rule, you need to respect your player-characters life., and no im not only bringing up the redwood incident to worsen the incident at all, it was actually @Blakstadthat suggested it to me, none of this was accidental, remember you said "bitch put him down" in the vid.......

and i dont see how this is a crusade against your friends considering this is the first report that has been made against you with my friends.

I never claimed your friend did anything wrong stop putting words in my mouth your friend was RP:ing alright. It is you who I have the problem with. Also stop putting words in my friends mouth he definately did not say ''bitch put him down''  He told me ''bitch put it down'' telling me to put my gun down since my friend is the more tender one if you listen to the video in 0.5 speed you can hear him saying ''bitch put it down'' My brother is always nice treating the hostages well which you can see by how he behaves toward the hostages. This is why he said to me ''bitch put it down'' Also right back at ya. Lying on a report is perma bannable. We never said on discord that we didnt take anything from you both YES we did take stuff from your friend not you. The only reason I hit you was because you were being disrespectful and trying to tell me what to do even though I am holding you up so you trying to give me orders and having an attitude is FailRP. Also werent you banned before for RDM:ing someone with a car or something? Also havent you reported about people before with the end result being that the person you reported was not quilty? You seem to be a very sensitive person that reports people just because you might be mad regardless if these people are innocent of the things you accuse them of. Like I said before reporting people with no good reason is really toxic for the DayzRP community. I do apologize for killing you accidentally which I already have apologized for and you accepting my apology. I do not know why you are wasting ours and the admins time.

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10 minutes ago, Soap said:

First of all very convenient of you to have your voice ''missing.'' and lets first talk about the redwood incident. Your saying it was bad RP situation? The people me and Screenedabrown held hostage literally after the incident thanked us for good rp and that they havent experienced hostile rp for a while. Me and my brother were roleplaying as radical religious people. We held up the redwood radio people for the broadcast to advertise our religion and our Colton family and our way of life. Me and Screenedabrown had this interaction with the hostages for maybe about an hour providing good immersive roleplay. When we were about to leave I dropped my lockpick on the ground  and it glitched and made me not able to unlock the doors and leave the redwood radio which we were about to do so I had to relog from the game and what I didnt realise is the que was 30 people so I had to wait like an hour to get back into the server while Screenedabrown is guarding the hostages till i get back. While im gone Screenedabrown gets confronted by group of at least 3 guys and they stated that theres 8 of them which was a lie. Screenedabrown told the rescuers that he will shoot hostages (which was just a threat) if they start breaching inside the redwood compound which makes it unrealistic for them to try to get in which they did compromising the lifes of the hostages. They opened the door to the redwood compound so my friend starts shooting at them and also hits one of the hostages in crossfire but doesnt kill him. When I log in like 20 minutes later this incident because of the que and server restart. I log into the server and I ask ''who killed my brother'' and one of the rescuers said ''Me and I enjoyed killing him'' Then they tell me to put my hands up after one of them saying that he enjoyed killing my brother. After that I rush them with my AKM blined by anger because of my brother being killed by one of em and also being stated that he enjoyed it. I saw three people outside one with no gun and then I get sprayed and I die trying to avenge my brothers death. Realistically you would definately not surrender to people who had just killed your brother and said that he enjoyed killing him. Realistically you would be filled with anger and grief.

I would love the hostages to bring up their points of view of the incident.

The reason we held these two gentlemen up in VMC is because we had a hostile interaction with some people who had yellow armbands before so we were sketched out by everyone we saw as you can see by the way I behave we were paranoid as you can see in the video we were really sketched out by one of the dudes backpack having yellow armbands. We were still paranoid after our hostile experience with those people who had yellow armbands. It was definately not gear RP.  We were really interactive with you guys providing immersive hostile RP. You said that it would be unrealistic for me to rush your group because I was outnumbered and seemed like I wasnt scared to do it and not valuing my life but at same time while we are holding you up you act disrespectfully, acting emotionless and barely even talking and being quiet a lot so in the video it is very convenient for you to not have your voice in the video. About your death. I am sorry it was a clear accident. I did not know that hitting someone with a rifle can kill them so quickly because I have done that before and no one had never died of it. I clearly stated that I am sorry in the chat and that I tried to get in contact with you and solve the problem. I do apologize for this accident but I refuse to apologize for the other stuff you are accusing me of. We did leave your gear and we also never said that we didn't take stuff from your friend. I took your friends AKM and a vest which had a pistol in it because I did not want him to start shooting at us with this AKM after we leave because we did not trust him because he said he is associated with Wolfpack which we have had some quarrels with in the past. For speirs stuff we left literally everything we left his AKM and his backpack which had a lot of guns like MP5 and M1A. We did not take any of his stuff so him lacking his stuff is his friend not either picking it up or his friend took it for himself since we took his AKM and pistol. Hes friend still had back up weapons that we left for example speirs:s stuff that we left on the ground and also my friends winchester that he left on the ground for them so we did leave his friend with weapons so he could defend himself and we did not take any of speirs stuff.

I would like to expose speirs for his own rule breaking 

4.4 Hostile situations must focus on the role play experience of both attackers and victims. Both sides should actively participate and contribute to role play in all situations, any disputes or issues can be discussed and resolved afterwards.

As a victim you may NOT:

Pretend to be fearless, emotionless, not feel pain, or otherwise be unaffected by the situation where your life is at risk in a hostile situation.

Be passive during the hostile role play and refuse to actively participate in it. Just sitting there and not contributing to role play can make the situation very boring for the attackers.

He was mostly quiet and the little amount he spoke was disrespectful. He did not seem to value his life at all as he seemed so calm about the situation with me roleplaying you can see my character is on the hinge acting very emotionally as you can see when I yell them to put hands up and raise my voice in certain situation etc since realistically In a situation like that I would be adrenaline filled unlike speirs who was super calm barely even talking and when he did he spoke with a normal voice acting disrespectfully and asking to get his gear back.Which again I will repeat very convenient to not have your voice on the video.

I would also like expose him for another rule break 

3.6 Using OOC communications like Discord, TeamSpeak or others to transmit or receive information related to in game situations is only allowed when you have a personal radio item in your inventory. As soon as your character loses the ability to speak or use the radio - for example has died, is unconscious, has been gagged, is surrendering (F1 or F2 animation), is handcuffed or had your radio item or clothing containing it removed from your inventory - you may not receive or transmit any in game information through OOC communications. While in presence of other players all such communication should also be transmitted in game using "double mic" mechanic. This means transmitting both through in game VOIP and external software simultaneously.

As you can see in the video he is using discord at 6:32 even though he does not have a personal radio item in his inventory and also if he did have it hidden somewhere which he didnt he couldnt of been talking there since he had his hands up. Also one reason to not have his voice on the video and probably the reason he was so quiet.

Reporting people for no good reason is very toxic for the community.

How is it convenient that my voice is missing? you can hear my friend talk in game the whole time? not sure what you're trying to suggest in the slightest mate so rethink what you and your mate is trying to do because trying to reverse this to save yourself will only make it 10x worse. and also i have others that recorded redwood, ill link spiders video and daisy is uploading hers as we speak. i dont understand where you're trying to come from because if you guys are really uneasy and paranoid due to a recent encounter with people with yellow armbands then why did you approach us nicely as shown at the start of the video, baiting my friend woodsy and then you coming out and saying "put your fucking hands up"... im not sure if you're believing your own lies or you're just extremely nieve and have to lie on the forums but it's gonna dig both of you a bigger and bigger hole.

there ultimately was more than 3 people on our side at the redwood thing btw, spider's group is decent in numbers and the man in the purple armband has friends too... im sure they said that they have more people on the way.

as i said, redwood was recorded from a few different angles, so id advise you to tell the truth about everything instead of covering your own arse up so no punishment is done ,and trying to turn this around on me lmfao...ok kid.

you still broke the rule of running out and getting YOURSELF killed when peaceful solutions were offered several times, even after combat.

i think @Spider79 @Blakstad @Daisy @DrCrazyGamer should all type their POV'S on what happened at redwood. as well as post any videos that was recorded.

And it wasn't you that got into contact with me, i told @Woodsy over discord to give my disc name or yours so i could contact you as seen in this screenshot below. 

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"14:09:01 | Player "Joshua Speirs" (DEAD) killed by Player "Aki Colton" with AK-74 from 0.84608 meters"- so straight away i tried to get into contact with you guys, where you both proceeded to add me on discord and make a call, you were both really concerned if i made a report because you knew you did wrong, mistake or not (which it clearly wasnt) and were saying things like "we will do anything" "can help you if you need a favour" and you were both very sincere and apologetic which is why origianlly i decided to let it go, but then when i realised that you lied to me on the call, and that you were only concerned about me putting a post up instead of my experience and death of my character really shows alot.

im also really confused as to what me tabbing out has to do with anything here? im not in any active call and im not typing to anyone neither, all i do is tab out, scroll and tab back in. but nice try in trying to turn this around again lol.

you guys barely interacted with us too as shown in the video, you scroll up all nice and engage in normal conversation with a random player which is really weird for someone who is "paranoid" after a recent incident with a group. and you then told us to put our hand up whilst guns were pointed at you, which is me valuing my players life. i had an m1a socom and an AKM, im also decent at pvp so i could've easily killed you both but i decided to put my hands up and comply with you guys due to me being concerned about me and my friends safety, we never acted emotionless at all and we complied with you. and as i said, if i was barely talking then why is my microphone emoticon being shown on screen alot? and you guys also replying to what im saying.... but as well as that, please enlighten me to how i am disrespectful, as well as my friend? because i certainly wasnt in the slightest. if i was then im sure you and your friend would've retaliated if i was rude, but i wasnt. i complied and got killed, and at the end when i asked about the supressor i clearly wasnt talking to the man that eventually killed me, i was talking to your brother because he can be heard saying "its just a health check" or some shit like that, then he said "we wont take anything" which is when i asked about the supressor... then you said that i was telling you what to do? lol.

and can you also provide an indepth explanation of how i broke rules?

rule 4.4 wasnt broken, not once did i act fearless or anything, otherwise i wouldnt have put my hands up and complied with me taking off my clothing, i would've resisted???

and i was barely talking? please watch the video again and look out for the microphone emoticon, as well as you both replying to stuff im saying.... the incident was less than 5 mins? what are you expecting my character to do prey? you had a gun pointed at me and i complied and answered every question and demand respectfully and properly. as ive already said, lying is a perma-bannable offense so you're putting yourself at risk here because you cant realise you both done wrong here. 

and also i never broke rule 3.6 as i never typed, or joined, or started any call, or gave out any information for the matter, i tabbed out, scrolled then tabbed back in kiddo.... WATCH THE VIDEO.

and im not sure what ur suggesting with my voice not being in the video? you tryna say i did some magical editing trick and muted myself? if that was the case then why can u hear the buzz of my headset mic (which doesnt work) at the start of the video? i have a USB headset and an external mic (blue snowball), the USB mic is broken and no voice can be heard thru it, but i use a blue snowball to talk in game. so shadowplay defaulted to the USB headset picking up whatever would come from my broken headset, and not my blue snowball... not really sure what you tried to get at with that in the slightest mate, would take some wizardry to only mute my mic and keep everyone elses active.....

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8 minutes ago, Soap said:

I never claimed your friend did anything wrong stop putting words in my mouth your friend was RP:ing alright. It is you who I have the problem with. Also stop putting words in my friends mouth he definately did not say ''bitch put him down''  He told me ''bitch put it down'' telling me to put my gun down since my friend is the more tender one if you listen to the video in 0.5 speed you can hear him saying ''bitch put it down'' My brother is always nice treating the hostages well which you can see by how he behaves toward the hostages. This is why he said to me ''bitch put it down'' Also right back at ya. Lying on a report is perma bannable. We never said on discord that we didnt take anything from you both YES we did take stuff from your friend not you. The only reason I hit you was because you were being disrespectful and trying to tell me what to do even though I am holding you up so you trying to give me orders and having an attitude is FailRP. Also werent you banned before for RDM:ing someone with a car or something? Also havent you reported about people before with the end result being that the person you reported was not quilty? You seem to be a very sensitive person that reports people just because you might be mad regardless if these people are innocent of the things you accuse them of. Like I said before reporting people with no good reason is really toxic for the DayzRP community. I do apologize for killing you accidentally which I already have apologized for and you accepting my apology. I do not know why you are wasting ours and the admins time.

So your telling me that your brother said "bitch put it down" instead of "Bitch Put him down"? and you can clearly hear lag in his mic as he said it, why would he say bitch? lol. and enlighten me on how asking about a supressor due to your friend saying that you're not taking anything is me demanding stuff in the situation? are you daft? and i was banned previous for hitting someone in the middle of the night in my car whilst i was running over infected and he was standing in the middle of it, please go read into the full thing lmfao. here ill even link it for ya

also read the outcome from the staff member voodoo....

 

and the incident in cherno came to no avail because no substantial evidence was subsided, which is why i now have shadowplay on, already said man trying to turn this around and lie on this is gonna make it 10x worse for you.

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I am very happy that they are posting their POV:s. Even if your mic emoticon is on it doesnt mean your talking all the time you can double tap caps lock for it to show its on. And dont try to make this look like your the only one who was trying to contact. I was asking your friend for your forum name as you can see on the logs so I could apologize to you so it wasnt like I didnt try to contact you. In discord you seemed like a really cool guy and I was sincerely apologetic because I felt horrible for killing you accidentally. I know it sucks dying for bullshit reasons and having to run up again. I would appreaciate if you stopped bringing your friend into this saying ''we never acted emotionless at all and we complied with you'' and with the previous message'' and saying we engaged in little talk and role-play when you can clearly see the microphone icon being used a lot on my recording as well as my friend speaking to you both as well'' I  havent accused your friend of any wrong doing so stop trying to making it look like that I am trying to accuse your friend as well. It you who I am accusing not your friend so please stop it. Also calling me a daft is really uncalled for in this Report thing.

 

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6 hours ago, speirs said:

in the call they were claiming and trying to persuade me that it was a mistake and i was buying it, they were also saying to me that i shouldn't report them and they would do anything, and asked if i needed any favors and i said to them its fine if it was a mistake which it clearly is not

 

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14 minutes ago, Soap said:

I am very happy that they are posting their POV:s. Even if your mic emoticon is on it doesnt mean your talking all the time you can double tap caps lock for it to show its on. And dont try to make this look like your the only one who was trying to contact. I was asking your friend for your forum name as you can see on the logs so I could apologize to you so it wasnt like I didnt try to contact you. In discord you seemed like a really cool guy and I was sincerely apologetic because I felt horrible for killing you accidentally. I know it sucks dying for bullshit reasons and having to run up again. I would appreaciate if you stopped bringing your friend into this saying ''we never acted emotionless at all and we complied with you'' and with the previous message'' and saying we engaged in little talk and role-play when you can clearly see the microphone icon being used a lot on my recording as well as my friend speaking to you both as well'' I  havent accused your friend of any wrong doing so stop trying to making it look like that I am trying to accuse your friend as well. It you who I am accusing not your friend so please stop it. Also calling me a daft is really uncalled for in this Report thing.

 

Okay so you're telling me, when the microphone emoticon was on my screen, it was because it was just there and i wasnt saying anything? lol ok....

most of the time when u can see it, one of you guys reply to me, so again YoU'rE dIgGiNg yOuRsElF a DeEpEr HoLe. and i didnt try make it look like i was the only one trying to contact, i explained how as soon as i died i messaged @Woodsy on discord asking him to give you guys my discord so we could talk. and i can bring my friend into this all i want he was there and he was held up with me? and is really important to what happend, you're making it come across/ lying bout how im acting emotionless, and not roleplaying and barely speaking when in actuality, your statements are false. bullshitting for the betterment of yourself and your friend will not get you anywhere.

you're also contradicting yourself, you claim to be so paranoid and anxious due to a recent encounter with people with yellow armbands which i doubt even happened, however you approach us fine (as shown in the video), you engage in general convo with woodsy whilst im in the barracks and then one of you come round the corner from behind the barrack to the right and scream "put your fucking hands up", that doesn't make sense kiddo, and you never mentioned anything about yellow armbands untill you saw my friends armband which he explained to the both of you that he has just to trade with that group.

contradiction central here.

 

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What he meant by bringing up the "microphone emoticon" was that just because it is on doesn't mean that you are talking. He is not saying in any way shape or form that you weren't talking at all just stating that it's a possibility for to be on and you not talking. We are ready for the punishment yes and again I and Soap personally apologize for accidently killing you. But, we won't stand here and be accused of lies especially when you just turn our own words against us. It just proves that you are trying to use every little thing against us to throw us under the bus. I personally don't want you to get in trouble for lying but it seems you want the worse for us. I bid you well @Speirs. Now we wait for the admins to decide please stop spamming this I can't monitor it 24/7.

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7 hours ago, speirs said:

Okay so you're telling me, when the microphone emoticon was on my screen, it was because it was just there and i wasnt saying anything? lol ok....

most of the time when u can see it, one of you guys reply to me, so again YoU'rE dIgGiNg yOuRsElF a DeEpEr HoLe. and i didnt try make it look like i was the only one trying to contact, i explained how as soon as i died i messaged @Woodsy on discord asking him to give you guys my discord so we could talk. and i can bring my friend into this all i want he was there and he was held up with me? and is really important to what happend, you're making it come across/ lying bout how im acting emotionless, and not roleplaying and barely speaking when in actuality, your statements are false. bullshitting for the betterment of yourself and your friend will not get you anywhere.

you're also contradicting yourself, you claim to be so paranoid and anxious due to a recent encounter with people with yellow armbands which i doubt even happened, however you approach us fine (as shown in the video), you engage in general convo with woodsy whilst im in the barracks and then one of you come round the corner from behind the barrack to the right and scream "put your fucking hands up", that doesn't make sense kiddo, and you never mentioned anything about yellow armbands untill you saw my friends armband which he explained to the both of you that he has just to trade with that group.

contradiction central here.

 

We talked with him normally for  like 10 seconds till we tell yall to put your hands up. I dont know why its bad to approach your friend in conversation for 10 seconds till we tell yall to put your hands up. As you can hear we RP realistically as soon as we tell you to put your hands up we yell ''PUT YOUR FUCKING HANDS UP'' in a frantic way. Do you have any proof that I offered speirs any favors? We literally just said to him that we would leave his stuff on the barrack and that I could go guard it if he wanted me to. I was going to guard it till he said that his friend is bringing it to him. Also most of the times ypu spoke which wasnt a lot was very disrespectful like I have said earlier. Please do not result into personal attacks in the forums I know this is a sensitive subject but lets not start call each other names ok? I know you act like this in game but didnt expect this kind of behavior in a forum dispute. Now we will wait for the admins judgement. Me and my friend accept whatever the judgement may be from the admins. Again I apologize for killing you by accident and I understand if I do get a punishment for it because accidents like that shouldnt happen. I should of known better than to hit you with my rifle which I didnt know could kill with one hit if aimed to the head. Would like to point out last thing. You were so cool about this accident in discord so the reason you probably changed your mind and reported us was because your squad mate prolly told you to. This seems to be a case of bigger squads getting mad at the little guy. This can make the community very toxic when innocent people get reported just because someone is angry which we can see you clearly are by the way you type in this thread. Calling us names etc. I accept any possible punishment for killing you by accident. Now lets hear from the admins and hope this will be solved.

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@speirs you seem to have reported two incidents in the opening post, one of which you weren't even present for.

The situation involving @Daisy, @DrCrazyGamer, @SynO, @Blakstad, @Spider79 and @darethima needs to be posted in a separate report by one of the mentioned members involved in the situation. Do not post more about this in this report.

@speirs please edit the opening post to fit only this one incident involving you, @Woodsy and the Colton brothers.

All posts from the other incident has been hidden.

@ScreenedAbrown @Soap: You are logging out while there are active kill rights and before the 30 minute timer is up as seen in the logs. Please explain this.

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6 hours ago, Soap said:

We talked with him normally for  like 10 seconds till we tell yall to put your hands up. I dont know why its bad to approach your friend in conversation for 10 seconds till we tell yall to put your hands up. As you can hear we RP realistically as soon as we tell you to put your hands up we yell ''PUT YOUR FUCKING HANDS UP'' in a frantic way. Do you have any proof that I offered speirs any favors? We literally just said to him that we would leave his stuff on the barrack and that I could go guard it if he wanted me to. I was going to guard it till he said that his friend is bringing it to him. Also most of the times ypu spoke which wasnt a lot was very disrespectful like I have said earlier. Please do not result into personal attacks in the forums I know this is a sensitive subject but lets not start call each other names ok? I know you act like this in game but didnt expect this kind of behavior in a forum dispute. Now we will wait for the admins judgement. Me and my friend accept whatever the judgement may be from the admins. Again I apologize for killing you by accident and I understand if I do get a punishment for it because accidents like that shouldnt happen. I should of known better than to hit you with my rifle which I didnt know could kill with one hit if aimed to the head. Would like to point out last thing. You were so cool about this accident in discord so the reason you probably changed your mind and reported us was because your squad mate prolly told you to. This seems to be a case of bigger squads getting mad at the little guy. This can make the community very toxic when innocent people get reported just because someone is angry which we can see you clearly are by the way you type in this thread. Calling us names etc. I accept any possible punishment for killing you by accident. Now lets hear from the admins and hope this will be solved.

again, finding it petty how you're turning this around and accusing me of shit that clearly never happened, it doesn't make sense if you're role-playing as paranoid yet you bait my friend into a general conversation to then mug him... that's not what you do if you're paranoid, and visibly we had no armbands (and i had none on me at all because im not affiliated with any major group that wears them) so tell me why it was us that you decided to do a "health check" on even though you ultimately killed me and took stuff as well, you're getting caught up in your own lies. and ive already said to you as well, please enlighten me and tell me how i was rude? all i did was comply and go along with the role-play situation, i asked about my suppressor that the other kid took because yall said you weren't taking anything, so im not sure why your player-character thought i was talking to you... still not an excuse to hit me neither, mistake or not its an invalid kill and ive already stated other rules you both have broken over yesterday and the redwood incident. and it got kinda personal when you both decided to lie on the forums because you both did wrong and cant admit it, if you feel as if lying is a good ultimatum then do so kiddo, but its a perma-bannable offense. and i'd like to know what your friend's post said before it was deleted.. although you both claim it was a mistake, it definitely was not in my eyes as well as my friends @BlakstadAnd @Woodsy, when in person with you as well i never called you both any names neither so im quoting "i know you act like this in game but didn't expect this kind of behavior in a forum dispute" as slander as well, as ive never had a personal encounter with you until yesterday when you decided to do your little rouse. i do apologize for calling you daft though but you can see im clearly frustrated at the fact that you wanna pin this against me and lie on the fourms, its just manipulative now acting the nice guy when in actuality....

its just really funny why you're acting so formal and passive with your lies, its another level of petty in my opinion, i ultimately decided to put this up because of what happened at redwood, and because you had lied to me on discord, and it was still a rule break at the end of the day. and yeah i did act cool on discord because you were both being manipulative playing it off as a mistake and i had made the mistake once before when i ran someone over, but then given the evidence and a call with my friends i decided to put this up anyway. this isnt a case of big guys on little guys because @Blakstad and @Spider79's groups arent JTF which is the group im in, and redwood is a place i stay currently as we're setting up, but you took @DrCrazyGamer hostage who is our founder and leader. dont see how you think this is bullying.

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5 minutes ago, Hofer said:

@speirs you seem to have reported two incidents in the opening post, one of which you weren't even present for.

The situation involving @Daisy, @DrCrazyGamer, @SynO, @Blakstad, @Spider79 and @darethima needs to be posted in a separate report by one of the mentioned members involved in the situation. Do not post more about this in this report.

@speirs please edit the opening post to fit only this one incident involving you, @Woodsy and the Colton brothers.

All posts from the other incident has been hidden.

@ScreenedAbrown @Soap: You are logging out while there are active kill rights and before the 30 minute timer is up as seen in the logs. Please explain this.

i was asked to put redwood in as well by my friends, but they can make their separate report if they wish. i'll respect your decision however it is linked.

 

as ive already stated, IMO the rules from what i can see (given a different perspective and looking at it from the opposers side) the rules broken on their behalf was the invalid kill (mistake or not im still dead), the bad roleplay given, the lying on the forum posts, combat logging (this is all to do with the dichina military base incident as you have asked me not to refer to redwood...

Please see the video, you say you're paranoid yet you approach two well armed players with no problem... doesnt make sense.

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@Hofer, I only logged out after I was killed at NWAF to make sure that my character would spawn in the way I wanted it, then I immediately logged back in...

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4 hours ago, Hofer said:

@speirs you seem to have reported two incidents in the opening post, one of which you weren't even present for.

The situation involving @Daisy, @DrCrazyGamer, @SynO, @Blakstad, @Spider79 and @darethima needs to be posted in a separate report by one of the mentioned members involved in the situation. Do not post more about this in this report.

@speirs please edit the opening post to fit only this one incident involving you, @Woodsy and the Colton brothers.

All posts from the other incident has been hidden.

@ScreenedAbrown @Soap: You are logging out while there are active kill rights and before the 30 minute timer is up as seen in the logs. Please explain this.

After I accidentally killed him I ran to closest house I could find and logged out so I could start searching speir:es discord name and fully focus on solving this issue and solve this issue with him and apologizing  to him. Apology which he accepted and then telling him that I would be willing to guard his gear for him so he could come back and then he said that its okay and that his friend is bringing it to him. Now he says that me and my buddy stole his gear which definately is not true we left everything he had for him on the barrack. If he did not get his gear back its either A: his friend did not take all of it to him or B: his friend took some of it to himself. I am not accusing his friend tho maybe he just didnt have enough room for his stuff or something which is prolly why speirs couldnt get all of his stuff back. I acknowledge that this was a rule break from my part to log out but because I killed him by accident it was my first priority to focus on solving the issue with him so I wouldnt be split up focusing on my character as well. I am telling the truth and I hold no personal grudge against speirs and I really hope we can just get over this dispute and go back to playing on this server. 

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14:35:39 | Player "Carl Colton" has been disconnected

14:15:20 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected

14:09:18 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //DO U KNOW HIS FORUM NAME
14:09:38 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //if u talk with him tell him i will let him have his shit
14:09:48 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //it was an accident
14:10:21 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //is he mad?
14:10:48 | Chat("Aki Colton"): /WHAT IS HIS FORUM NAME?

14:09:26 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): yeah
14:10:51 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): he said
14:11:07 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): speirs 9310
14:11:09 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): discord

 

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6 minutes ago, speirs said:

14:35:39 | Player "Carl Colton" has been disconnected

14:15:20 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected

14:09:18 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //DO U KNOW HIS FORUM NAME
14:09:38 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //if u talk with him tell him i will let him have his shit
14:09:48 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //it was an accident
14:10:21 | Chat("Aki Colton"): //is he mad?
14:10:48 | Chat("Aki Colton"): /WHAT IS HIS FORUM NAME?

14:09:26 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): yeah
14:10:51 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): he said
14:11:07 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): speirs 9310
14:11:09 | Chat("Lewis Moore"): discord

 

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15 hours ago, ScreenedAbrown said:

@Hofer, I only logged out after I was killed at NWAF to make sure that my character would spawn in the way I wanted it, then I immediately logged back in...

 

14 hours ago, Soap said:

After I accidentally killed him I ran to closest house I could find and logged out so I could start searching speir:es discord name and fully focus on solving this issue and solve this issue with him and apologizing  to him. 

 

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13:50:12 | Player "Aki Colton" is connected
14:09:01 | Player "Joshua Speirs" (DEAD) killed by Player "Aki Colton" with AK-74 from 0.84608 meters
14:15:20 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected (LOGS OUT LESS THAN 30 MINUTES AFTER KILLING JOSHUA SPEIRS)
14:20:22 | Player "Aki Colton" is connected (Returns, OK-ish)
14:35:21 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected (LOGS OUT LESS THAN 30 MINUTES AFTER KILLING JOSHUA SPEIRS)
30 MINUTE TIMER ENDING
14:55:20 | Player "Aki Colton" is connected
15:08:19 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected
15:33:26 | Player "Aki Colton" is connected
15:42:53 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected
15:43:30 | Player "Aki Colton" is connected
15:55:27 | Player "Aki Colton" (DEAD) killed by Player "Vladimir Visus" with AKM from 3.28108 meters 
16:11:13 | Player "Aki Colton" has been disconnected
 

13:52:47 | Player "Carl Colton" is connected
14:09:01 | Player "Joshua Speirs" (DEAD) killed by Player "Aki Colton" with AK-74 from 0.84608 meters
14:35:39 | Player "Carl Colton" has been disconnected (LOGS OUT LESS THAN 30 MINUTES AFTER KILLING JOSHUA SPEIRS)
30 MINUTE TIMER ENDING
14:53:41 | Player "Carl Colton" is connected
15:16:07 | Player "Carl Colton" (DEAD) killed by Player "Vladimir Visus" with AKM from 12.6747 meters 
15:18:24 | Player "Carl Colton" has been disconnected
15:20:04 | Player "Carl Colton" is connected
16:13:06 | Player "Carl Colton" has been disconnected

@ScreenedAbrown: You logged out for 20 minutes less than 30 minutes after OP was killed. You got killed well over an hour after the encounter with @speirs. I'm going to ask you one more time. Explain.

@Soap: The same question to you as you both logged out at the same time and was logged out for 20 minutes. This all happened before the 30 minute timer had ended. Explain.

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If I had logged off before it was probably to talk on discord. 

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Correction

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