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Thoughts on offline base raiding?

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Gonna keep this fairly short, but I feel like offline base raiding brings nothing to RP for both parties and is just for the gear. 

So I ask this, how does everyone in the community feel about offline base raiding? 

Do you think it should be against the rules?

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An almost reoccurring topic like lore wipes.

Can't prevent it due to multiple reasons, can just try to make it harder if you're away, but I get your points and partially agree. If you really want to keep something realistically safe you need lots of players to cover shifts and / or scavenge to compensate losses, however.

 

While I partially agree with some of your outlooks on this I really have to ask though: How do you want to prevent it?

This can be "abused" the other way: If your base is technically safe all the time if no one is there or can be identified by an outsider by remaining quiet etc you essentially create some kind of base protection by not being there, or being very hush hush. Is this your intention in turn? Because that's the consequence if we throw in "should it be against the rules?".

 

With this and other aspects in mind I feel this won't really go anywhere besides maybe a few (semi-heated?) posts. TL;DR: While I feel you as potential victim of such deeds - yes it sucks if you find out your base has been broken into if no one was there and if people use the 'dark hours' specifically to do that - it also can't be a solution to forbid attacks on bases if no one is there because that adds de-facto safe havens for equipment. I'd rather see breaking into bases be slightly harder or in turn make building certain parts easier in order to add protection to your base more.

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Bases should require specialised tools to break in, that the player must hand-craft and spend time preparing, otherwise they are simply not worth the effort to construct.

Prohibiting offline raiding is silly as I have no way of knowing if any player is offline at a given time, unless I know them personally, but the majority of bases I come across I have no clue who owns them when I break in.

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Bases will be raided whether you're online or offline. Don't want your walls broken and your roleplay M4 taken? Don't build them! 
Raiding is good for the loot economy and it means people don't have a safe space, we are in an apocalypse after all 🙂

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5 minutes ago, APositiveElmo said:

[...]otherwise they are simply not worth the effort to construct.

This is also an aspect, possibly a tricky one. If bases are too hard to build and secure but relatively easy to break in, they're not worth the effort for many.

In turn you need to make base building somewhat easier and / or breaking in harder. But if you make building some parts easier we eventually get complaints about server performance as we did a long while ago that forced them to make building harder. Because more bases and base objects popped up. Logical.

Perhaps we should make it a bit easier again and see how this affects performance. Alternatively, if we keep it that way, breaking in should be slightly harder at least. Either takes more time and /or needs more tools or specialized tools.

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Best counter to this is building a base with RP in mind, make it open plan, no locks, couple containers containing RP stuff, food, water, choice items like belts, attachments and general bits and bobs so if anyone comes while your are offline its not a wasted journey for them. Then use it for RP... Like, say for instance a pub. A Pub called "The Two Kings" Located in Stary Sobor, that will be open for business in a few days... Tell your friends.

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Bruh we should just ban base raiding period. Me and my boys ain't spending HOURS AND HOURS building our roleplay base just for it to be ruined by gearRP'ing base raiders. I hate it.

How am i supposed to roleplay in a settlement if it gets raided offline or online? 

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4 minutes ago, NozzyRP said:

Bruh we should just ban base raiding period. Me and my boys ain't spending HOURS AND HOURS building our roleplay base just for it to be ruined by gearRP'ing base raiders. I hate it.

How am i supposed to roleplay in a settlement if it gets raided offline or online? 

Amen bro, i hate having to stop my roleplay because of offline or online raids. It's a hindrance!! 

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You can't prevent it. There's no way for anyone to know who's online and who's not when you are raiding a base. You see a base you want to get into and I'd be willing to guess that most people assume the owners are online. Me and my friends base as been raided a couple times in the past few days, we don't generally care about what gets taken unless it's items that specifically ties into our RP (Tools, food items, etc.) but we don't dwell on it. Go out find a new lock and continue from where we left off.

 

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Please check before making a new thread, this has already been discussed.

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