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S1 - Camp Eden - BadRP / Possible Stream sniping

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Server and location: s1 camp eden

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2:25GMT

Your in game name: Yelena Kostel

Names of allies involved: @RiZ and wolfpack

Name of suspect/s: Jackels

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): -----

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

Detailed description of the events: 

Random guy comes up. Out of the blue. Jackals and Wolfpack were caught up in firefight already. He suspiciously arrives the same time the WP members do.

Randomly gets hostile and starts calling people stupid slags, black people and chinks. Attempting to bait us.

If this is what roleplay I expect from people in this community, I'd rather go hiatus cause I was just not entertained for the un-needed, uncalled for continuous amount of name calling.

 

3.2 Your character must behave realistically and appropriately to the different situations you participate in, keeping the current world situation and context of post-apocalyptic world in mind. Do not act in a way that indicates no value for your characters life and survival. For example, attempting to kill people when heavily outnumbered, excessively talking back or insulting someone when taken hostage, or knowingly running into an area of active hostile engagement when not involved in the fight. Characters found guilty of breaking this rule will be permanently marked as dead.

 

Video says it all. I don't even think i have to write a POV for people to even make an opinion. I personally think it's because he knew that it was Riz, and Riz is a streamer.

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Connection Logs:

00:59:30 | Player "Yelena Kostel" is connected
02:27:33 | Player "Yelena Kostel" has been disconnected

01:19:54 | Player "Jack Jackson" is connected
02:40:26 | Player "Jack Jackson" has been disconnected
02:45:33 | Player "Jack Jackson" is connected
03:12:32 | Player "Jack Jackson" has been disconnected

01:20:55 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" is connected
02:28:17 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" has been disconnected

23:37:42 | Player "Roy Copper" is connected
02:27:40 | Player "Roy Copper" has been disconnected

23:58:06 | Player "Louis Lombardy" is connected
02:40:26 | Player "Louis Lombardy" has been disconnected
02:42:56 | Player "Louis Lombardy" is connected
03:43:21 | Player "Louis Lombardy" has been disconnected

Position Logs:

02:14:41 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1209.4, 8768.0, 278.5>) 
02:19:41 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1476.2, 9068.6, 293.2>) 
02:24:41 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1380.0, 9253.4, 334.1>)

02:14:41 | Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1202.7, 8775.0, 278.5>) 
02:19:41 | Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1253.3, 8890.2, 278.9>) 
02:24:41 | Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1530.4, 9130.8, 297.2>) 
02:29:42 | Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1379.4, 9254.1, 334.1>) 
02:34:42 | Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1378.6, 9258.9, 326.0>) 

Hit Logs

02:27:23 | Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1378.0, 9259.2, 334.1>) hit by Player "Roy Copper" (pos=<1388.2, 9257.6, 334.1>) with Armsan RS-X1 from 10.3095 meters 
02:27:26 | Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1379.3, 9258.3, 334.1>) hit by Player "Roy Copper" (pos=<1388.8, 9258, 334.1>) with Armsan RS-X1 from 9.54736 meters 

02:27:24 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1379.1, 9254.4, 334.1>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1377.9, 9258.2, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 3.99485 meters 
02:27:24 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1379.1, 9254.4, 334.1>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1377.9, 9258.2, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 3.99485 meters 
02:27:24 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1379.1, 9254.4, 334.1>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1377.9, 9258.2, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 3.99485 meters 
02:27:24 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1379.1, 9254.5, 334.1>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1377.8, 9258.0, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 3.70815 meters 
02:27:24 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1379.0, 9254.7, 334.0>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1377.7, 9257.8, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 3.36004 meters 
02:27:24 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1379.0, 9254.7, 334.0>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1377.7, 9257.8, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 3.36004 meters 
02:27:24 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (pos=<1378.9, 9255.0, 334.0>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1377.5, 9257.6, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 2.93743 meters 
  
02:27:30 | Player "Roy Copper" (pos=<1384.7, 9261.6, 334.1>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1380.9, 9255.4, 334.1>) with M4A1 from 7.21046 meters 
02:27:31 | Player "Roy Copper" (pos=<1384.5, 9259.1, 334.1>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1379.3, 9256.8, 334.1>) with M4A1 from 5.65032 meters 
02:27:31 | Player "Roy Copper" (pos=<1384.5, 9259.1, 334.1>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1379.3, 9256.8, 334.1>) with M4A1 from 5.65032 meters 
02:27:31 | Player "Roy Copper" (pos=<1386.3, 9256.7, 334.1>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1378.9, 9257.4, 334.1>) with M4A1 from 7.34411 meters 
02:27:32 | Player "Roy Copper" (pos=<1381.9, 9254.4, 334.1>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1379.2, 9258.6, 334.1>) with M4A1 from 4.95888 meters 
02:27:33 | Player "Roy Copper" (pos=<1380.3, 9254.3, 334.1>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1379.4, 9258.9, 334.1>) with M4A1 from 4.68053 meters 
  
02:27:24 | Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1377.5, 9257.6, 334.1>) hit by Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1386, 9263.9, 334.1>) with IZH-18 from 10.5036 meters 
02:27:26 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1386.7, 9262.8, 334.1>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1379.1, 9258.3, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 8.87451 meters 
02:27:27 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1386.4, 9262.4, 334.1>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1379.3, 9258.3, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 8.25347 meters 
02:27:27 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1386.4, 9263.2, 334.1>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1382.3, 9255.5, 334.0>) with M4A1 from 8.76898 meters 
02:27:27 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1386.4, 9263.2, 334.1>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1382.1, 9255.4, 334.1>) with M4A1 from 8.92388 meters 
02:27:28 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1384.7, 9263.5, 334.0>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1381.0, 9259.2, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 5.66007 meters 
02:27:28 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1384.7, 9263.5, 334.0>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1381.0, 9259.2, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 5.66007 meters 
02:27:28 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1384.7, 9263.5, 334.0>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1381.0, 9259.2, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 5.66007 meters 
02:27:28 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1384.7, 9263.5, 334.0>) hit by Player "Louis Lombardy" (pos=<1381.0, 9259.2, 334.1>) with AK-74 from 5.66007 meters 
02:27:41 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (pos=<1383.7, 9262.0, 334.0>) hit by Player "Jack Jackson" (pos=<1382.9, 9262.8, 334.1>) with M4A1 from 1.17452 meters

Kill Logs

02:27:24 | Player "Yelena Kostel" (DEAD) killed by Player "Louis Lombardy" with AK-74 from 3.70815 meters 
02:27:27 | Player "Roy Hutchinson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jack Jackson" with M4A1 from 8.92388 meters 
02:27:33 | Player "Roy Copper" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jack Jackson" with M4A1 from 4.68053 meters 

 

Calling in:

@Mademoiselle | Yelena Kostel | POSTED

@TheFlare1 | Aydyn Greene | POSTED

@RiZ | Roy Hutchinson | POSTED

@Cracka_tee | Roy Copper | POSTED

 

@Dodge | Louis Lombardy |

@JackZRP | Jack Jackson | POSTED

For their FULL and DETAILED POV and any un-edited VIDEO EVIDENCE they have.

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Jack Jackson;

This is a unique type of roleplay that only i bring to the server.

To start off with i didn't stream snipe you i don't even use twitch properly nor do i ever watch anybodies steam because i only play games myself. 

Secondly one of you said he was setting up on me in game which triggered my characters multiple persona syndrome which is why the accents changed from nice guy to violent then Conor McGregor.

I would like to also state that at no point i was trying to bait you that would be ridiculous at the time of talking to you i was completely alone with no backup my character was simply just extremely angry with how you were acting towards me and being rude when i first came up to you and throughout our conversation in game. This is why i acted this way in game as i was attempting to properly portray my characters personality. 

So i didn't bait or stream snipe. The RP wasn't amazing which i can get behind as to be honest i am not the best roleplayer which i will agree with but i'm not terrible and i attempt to provide a unique roleplay style when i talk to people which sometimes gets misunderstood. 

I can answer any questions asked of me and i am happy to talk the report out if the OP wishes.

Have a good day fellas - JackZ 

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@JackZRP we fail to find any evidence of this mental disability prior to this incident, and there has been no mention of any such mental disorder on your character profile until after this report was posted. Would you care to clarify your earlier statement or provide proof of this disorder existing prior to the fact?

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Hutch POV: Meet up at Eden by Lop castle after a firefight with Jackals. @JackZRP shows up at the same time or immediately after. We stand around and try to engage in conversation. I don't believe anyone said anything about taking position but I could be wrong. He immediately gets pissed off and starts screaming slurs for literally no reason. I try to get him to leave. Shortly after, he comes back with another Jackal and initiates at the castle.

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7 hours ago, Saunders said:

@JackZRP we fail to find any evidence of this mental disability prior to this incident, and there has been no mention of any such mental disorder on your character profile until after this report was posted. Would you care to clarify your earlier statement or provide proof of this disorder existing prior to the fact?

Bro I RP this character everyday and role play these multiple persona’s because he’s got the mental disorder you can ask anybody I often role play with in my group or in other groups that I come across. There’s not really any way I can prove it myself since it wasn’t on my character page prior to the incident which was stupid of me to be fair I should have had it in there 

 

// Sent from my phone

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5 hours ago, JackZRP said:

Bro I RP this character everyday and role play these multiple persona’s because he’s got the mental disorder you can ask anybody I often role play with in my group or in other groups that I come across. There’s not really any way I can prove it myself since it wasn’t on my character page prior to the incident which was stupid of me to be fair I should have had it in there 

 

// Sent from my phone

-- USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST --

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I was given permission to post here from boss man @Saunders

 

I have played with @JackZRP alot in the last 6-7 months again. JackZRP's character Jack Jackson is a very unique character because the way the JackZRP plays him. The way I see JackZRP's character is that he has deep mental issues and is always on edge because of these said issues. I haven't seen or heard anyone call his roleplay bad and when he plays this character anywhere. JackZRP is playing that character realistically and appropriately.

 

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. 

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Hello, Aydyn here, i was asked to post here by @Mademoiselle for my POV (I'm the one in green with the red shemagh)

 

Just a disclaimer I've never met Jack's character, so i have no idea if his character has mental issues or anything like that.

 

When we arrived at Eden we were sitting around the well after just running from an engagement with the Jackals about... 15-20 minutes earlier. We chose Eden to regroup as we thought it was far enough away that any surviving members from the original engagement wouldn't look there. About 4 minutes after we arrived, Jack walked up to us, we suspected he was apart of the Jackas, and he was moving around so i said "He might be getting into position" (which is why he started to rant, as he misheard me). He yelled at us and called us names, and then left. At this point i saw him hook left and not head right up the slope that was behind us, so i knew he was sticking around.

At this point i asked Riz if he wanted to instead move to Lop Castle as i thought that Jack would bring back friends to try to re-initaite on us. We moved into the castle and then Jack shows back up with 2 others and asks us all to put our hands up. I didn't have a loaded gun on me that was automatic, so i put my hands up and they took me hostage. Nothing was wrong with the hostage rp, but after they left I had suspicions that Jack might have logged out before the 30 minutes, and I was never asked for perms to log. 

I don't know if Jack was stream sniping, but he did know where to find us both times we met, so I'm not sure.

hope this helps clear things up - Aydyn

Edited by TheFlare1
Fixing wording

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Kill logs have been updated as well as hit logs.

 

@JackZRP and @Dodge can you both explain why you logged out within 13 minutes of a firefight?

On review of the logs, I've found the reconnects within a few minutes. Can you please explain the reason for the disconnect?

 

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Ran west cause Jack said he saw some wolfpack near Lop castle. Got to the castle and started to record when I got there. Did some quick RP when I got into the turret and then the initiation was dropped. People with me at the top didn't comply and died from Jack and I. Another guy with a ghillie wrapped gun complied and we hostage RP'ed for a few minutes till we dipped.

Once we left the scene I obviously was struggling to get out of the castle because I've never been there before and managed to fall off the castle lol. I managed to survive and then the server restarted. Which is why it says Jack and I logged. I logged back in after the restart immediately once the server was up and waited my timer. I managed to get attacked by wolves near the castle when I was waiting, it was also becoming night time.

2:22 is the yeet. Also my shadowplay didn't record the audio.

 

Edited by Dodge

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51 minutes ago, Rover said:

Kill logs have been updated as well as hit logs.

 

@JackZRP and @Dodge can you both explain why you logged out within 13 minutes of a firefight?

On review of the logs, I've found the reconnects within a few minutes. Can you please explain the reason for the disconnect?

 

The server crashed bro i logged back in as soon as i could but i think i had to wait in a queue

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10 minutes ago, JackZRP said:

The server crashed bro i logged back in as soon as i could but i think i had to wait in a queue

He is right, the server did restart/crash. I just forgot about it. My apologies

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POV: meet up with @RiZ at GM after dying in a firefight with the jackals up at the novaya area and head to eden to meet with the rest. upon arriving we are greeted by a rude individual who leaves shortly after releasing his anger.

we then head to lop castle, and the angry man shows up with his buddys.

they initiate, i beanbag a guy twice, run around in circles then die. 

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@JackZRP - With your RP as seen in the video from the OP, where did you want/expect this situation to lead to? You are running around on your own among a group of heavily armed individuals... what was your goal from insulting them and asking them such things as "What are you gonna do about it?"

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My character is not scared of anybody or any groups and will talk shit to anybody. Obviously i'd still comply and follow all NVFL rules etc but my character simply thinks hes harder than any of them. I have no clue how the situation was going to go, i simply was just providing free flowing roleplay that could of gone anywhere. I didn't want them to initiate nor wasn't going to initiate myself as it was only me at the time of me talking all of that shit. When i got into comms afterwards and found that there was people nearby and willing to come and help me take them out for what they had done and trying to set up on me (Which they did try and do while i was talking to them, the guy literally said im setting up now while running to a position with a gun in his hand).

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VERDICT

 @JackZRP - Trolling & Baiting - GUILTY
 @JackZRP / @Dodge - Combat Logging - NOT GUILTY

REASON

We'll adress the combat logging first; You showed us proof you disconnected due to a server restart, and returned as soon as you could.

Throughout the encounter with @Mademoiselle and her group you switch personalities, run around claiming that they're getting into positions and throws a lot of unnecessary slurs their way. You claim in your post that your character has a mental disorder that makes him behave this way. This is not how you play a character with dissociative identity disorder.

You change voices throughout to very trolly noises, you make airplane noises and start talking about a kill streak and you aslo add a bunch of racial slurs in there, in what seems as an attempt to get them to initiate on you. This is trolling, and a behaviour and roleplay we do not want to see on our servers at all.

Add in the fact that after this report was posted you decided to change your character page to add the following sentence.

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"since the apocalypse Jack has developed various mental problems"

It seems to us that you knew what you were doing was wrong, and you quickly added this to your character page to make it seem like this is something your character usually does.

The rules you have broken are the following:

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3.2 Your character must behave realistically and appropriately to the different situations you participate in, keeping the current world situation and context of post-apocalyptic world in mind. Do not act in a way that indicates no value for your characters life and survival. For example, attempting to kill people when heavily outnumbered, excessively talking back or insulting someone when taken hostage, or knowingly running into an area of active hostile engagement when not involved in the fight. Characters found guilty of breaking this rule will be permanently marked as dead.

4.7 You may not bait other players into situations where you provoke the player into using hostile actions and then using kill rights to kill them. This is known as baiting.

With that said.

OUTCOME

 @JackZRP - Trolling & Baiting - 7 DAY BAN, 15 WARNING POINTS
 @JackZRP / @Dodge - Combat Logging - NOT GUILTY, NO PUNISHMENT

Signed @Hofer & @Aiko

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