S1: Metagaming in Vybor 29/10/2019 - 22:00

[TheRoyalMac]

Server and location:  S1 - Vybor 

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 30/10/2019 - 22:00 (roughly)

Your in game name: Kirill Jares

Names of allies involved: unsure of his name, but he was killed a few seconds before me

Name of suspect/s: Kenneth and Kyle 

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): Red Gunter

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): None available

Detailed description of the events: 

Maybe an hour or two before this incident some people tried to open the doors to my car in Grishino I told them that if they got in i would kill them this then caused an argument with Neo the head of security in Grishino, which lead to me leaving and taking a man named Chris who is allied with Robbo to Vybor, we went there where there were some incidents which were resolved in game. However, Kenneth (one of the people who tried to get in my car) then turned up in town, i confronted him and then during our conversation he DC'd which although i find it hard to prove but i feel as though he left to avoid conflict, then the other friend (Kyle) arrived in town with different clothes, a different accent and pretending to not know me, then the other man (Kenneth) rejoined, immediately sprinted to his friend where they changed clothes again and accents again, they avoided a conversation for the sake of RP and me and a member of the security ended up being killed by them. I do not know if changing clothes and accents to avoid roleplay is breaking rules but i feel as though the man (Kenneth) who left the game mid conversation was essentially combat logging so that his friend had time to arrive. Then when he arrived, he rejoined and they were confronted, Kyle was ignoring orders from security (not valuing his life) then shot at by security, Kenneth who again was pretending not to know Kyle, pulled a gun without warning to the security and shot him, then i was killed. My main issue is the fact they actively avoided roleplay and then DC'd during a conversation to avoid being punished i.e killed without his friend to defend him.

Many thanks

Edited October 29, 2019 by TheRoyalMac

[KennethRP]

Hey, it's me Kenneth.

So, i meet up my buddy @Cuchulainn  and walk to Grish and we see a dude in a car. My friend whistles and askes for a taxi. He opens the door and OP says he will kill him if he gets in. We back off and there is an argument. We basicly say to each other to fuck off and get on with our day. 
Later meet the same person in Vybor and we start talking again. All of a sudden my game crash and I have to log back on. Once I get back on there is some shooting and I find some dead dudes on the street. After that my game crashes two more times. 

My dude, I did not combat log nor did I shoot anyone. Logs will show. 

Have a great day my dudes.

Edited October 30, 2019 by KennethRP

[TheRoyalMac]

and the other lad, "kyle" more or less avoiding rp with his mock accent and then when confronted about it just avoiding it, even after telling him i know who he is, not really a good RP experience like the rules state.

[Cuchulainn]

Anto POV: Earlier on in the day when me mate @KennethRPand I were in grishino I see a car driving within the walls. I whistle and call "TAXI" the driver slows down and i open the door. The driver then tells me if i get in he will end me bloody life. We argue a bit, I call him a typical russian and he calls me a Mick, after we both get on with our lives.

Fast forward to Vybor we enter the town and straight away I'm confronted with the same dude again. He has people around the town with guns and he himself too so Im a tad bit sketched and put on a shitty accent and give a fake name to try blend in to get a drink of water and antibiotics from the clinic. Whilst at the well I am confronted with the same man and a fella in a big fuck off juggernaut suit with a shotgun. They tell me to go have a chat with them. I follow them behind a house to have the chat when the OP takes his AK out so I sprint away. They chase after me saying nothing will happen and that they just wanna talk. I slow down and stop when the juggernaut dude with the shotgun kneecaps me, not once but TWICE. My buddy @Rutkiy shoots the guy in the back of the cranium and then I kill the OP for shooting at my mate and myself.  They in no way initiated on us.

[Hofer]

KILL LOGS

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22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.2337 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Kirill Jares" (DEAD) killed by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.8546 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "Anthony Walsh" (DEAD) killed by Player "burke stanley" with M4A1 from 9.51737 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.2337 meters 
22:01:07 | Player "Daithi Keogh" (DEAD) killed by ZmbF_VillagerOld_Blue

HIT LOGS

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22:00:30 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Tom Robinson" with MP-133 from 3.46533 meters 
22:00:34 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Tom Robinson" with MP-133 from 3.90737 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.14638 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.20043 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.23303 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.2337 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.2337 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.2337 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.2337 meters 
22:00:35 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.2337 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.25075 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.25075 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.25075 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.25075 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.25075 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.25075 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.25205 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.38071 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.38071 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.38071 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.38071 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.38071 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.57811 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.70877 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.76816 meters 
22:00:36 | Player "Tom Robinson" hit by Player "Daithi Keogh" with M4A1 from 4.64071 meters 
22:00:37 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 12.1758 meters 
22:00:37 | Player "Daithi Keogh" hit by Player "Kirill Jares" with Vityaz-SN PP19-01 from 4.63271 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Daithi Keogh" hit by Player "Kirill Jares" with Vityaz-SN PP19-01 from 4.52427 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Daithi Keogh" hit by Player "Kirill Jares" with Vityaz-SN PP19-01 from 4.47312 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Daithi Keogh" hit by Player "Kirill Jares" with Vityaz-SN PP19-01 from 4.47312 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Daithi Keogh" hit by Player "Kirill Jares" with Vityaz-SN PP19-01 from 4.47312 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Daithi Keogh" hit by Player "Kirill Jares" with Vityaz-SN PP19-01 from 4.45865 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 12.0039 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.8546 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.8546 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.6828 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.6915 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Daithi Keogh" hit by Player "Kirill Jares" with Vityaz-SN PP19-01 from 4.6682 meters 
22:00:38 | Player "Daithi Keogh" hit by Player "Kirill Jares" with Vityaz-SN PP19-01 from 4.6682 meters 
22:00:39 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.6082 meters 
22:00:39 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.6714 meters 
22:00:39 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.6714 meters 
22:00:39 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.6023 meters 
22:00:39 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.6023 meters 
22:00:39 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.7338 meters 
22:00:39 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 11.7338 meters 
22:00:42 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 1.71947 meters 
22:00:42 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 1.64975 meters 
22:00:42 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 1.60878 meters 
22:00:42 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 1.5504 meters 
22:00:42 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 1.5504 meters 
22:00:42 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 1.5504 meters 
22:00:42 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 1.43938 meters 
22:00:42 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 1.43938 meters 
22:01:33 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "burke stanley" with M4A1 from 11.1188 meters 
22:01:33 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "burke stanley" with M4A1 from 12.1897 meters 
22:01:35 | Player "burke stanley" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 10.0075 meters 
22:01:35 | Player "burke stanley" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 10.0075 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "burke stanley" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 9.63852 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "burke stanley" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 9.63852 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "burke stanley" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 9.52483 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "burke stanley" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 9.52132 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "burke stanley" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 9.52132 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "burke stanley" with M4A1 from 9.51737 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "burke stanley" with M4A1 from 9.51737 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "Kirill Jares" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 49.9009 meters 
22:01:36 | Player "burke stanley" hit by Player "Anthony Walsh" with M4A1 from 9.3897 meters 
22:02:10 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with MP7 from 1.46164 meters 
22:02:10 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with MP7 from 1.46164 meters 
22:04:00 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:00 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:00 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:00 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:00 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:00 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:00 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:00 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:01 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters 
22:04:01 | Player "Anthony Walsh" hit by Player "Josh Price" with FNX-45 from 0.96757 meters

CHAT LOGS

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21:39:27 | Chat("burke stanley"): *DESTROYS RADIO*
21:41:16 | Chat("John Douglas"): hi
21:43:47 | Chat("Mokhtar Bashir"): // ur radio is destroyed
21:43:55 | Chat("Ivan Volkov"): // understood
21:54:57 | Chat("burke stanley"): *searches for comms* do i find anything
21:55:01 | Chat("Ivan Volkov"): // no
21:56:50 | Chat("Anders Mata"): //Admin message: He lost full connection
21:58:36 | Chat("burke stanley"): // he had cuffs on
22:13:27 | Chat("Anders Mata"): OOC:Gentlemen could one of you that had the hostage in the police station come to helpdesk discord please? Thanks
22:13:31 | Chat("Jayson Smith"): //bro....
22:14:17 | Chat("burke stanley"): // WHAT WAS THAT
22:14:25 | Chat("burke stanley"): //sorry
22:17:35 | Chat("Kenneth Carlsson"): // Admins want you guys in the Helpdesk

CONNECTION LOGS

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19:23:49 | Player "Makenzie Miller" is connected
23:51:54 | Player "Makenzie Miller" has been disconnected

19:56:18 | Player "Aaron Michaels" is connected
23:51:57 | Player "Aaron Michaels" has been disconnected

19:58:52 | Player "Josh Price" is connected
23:52:02 | Player "Josh Price" has been disconnected

20:35:34 | Player "John Douglas" is connected
22:06:31 | Player "John Douglas" has been disconnected

21:19:38 | Player "Mokhtar Bashir" is connected
23:42:05 | Player "Mokhtar Bashir" has been disconnected

21:38:23 | Player "Jack Normann" is connected
23:56:25 | Player "Jack Normann" has been disconnected

22:00:01 | Player "DeAndre Young" is connected
23:55:26 | Player "DeAndre Young" has been disconnected

19:21:28 | Player "burke stanley" is connected
23:43:44 | Player "burke stanley" has been disconnected

19:48:29 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" is connected
21:47:19 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" has been disconnected
21:56:00 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" is connected
21:59:58 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" has been disconnected
22:01:20 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" is connected
22:08:20 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" has been disconnected
22:12:55 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" is connected
23:39:06 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" has been disconnected

21:16:46 | Player "Rob Black" is connected
23:09:49 | Player "Rob Black" has been disconnected

21:14:42 | Player "Daithi Keogh" is connected
22:01:19 | Player "Daithi Keogh" has been disconnected

POSITION LOGS

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22:01:43 | Player "Makenzie Miller" (pos=<3809.2, 8891.6, 311.0>)  
22:01:43 | Player "Aaron Michaels" (pos=<3822.1, 8926.6, 311.2>) 
22:01:43 | Player "Josh Price" (pos=<3821.0, 8921.8, 311.2>) 
22:01:43 | Player "John Douglas" (pos=<3824.1, 8932.6, 311.0>) 
22:01:43 | Player "Mokhtar Bashir" (pos=<3833.5, 8914.2, 311.3
22:01:43 | Player "Jack Normann" (pos=<3806.8, 8911.0, 311.0>) 
22:01:43 | Player "DeAndre Young" (pos=<3802.5, 8947.5, 311.0>)
22:01:43 | Player "burke stanley" (pos=<3818.2, 8890.3, 311.2>) 
21:56:43 | Player "Daithi Keogh" (pos=<3860.4, 8809.4, 311.4>) 
22:06:44 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" (pos=<3818.1, 8889.8, 311.2>) 
21:56:43 | Player "Kirill Jares" (pos=<3772.1, 8890.3, 311.2>) 

Calling in the following individuals for their POV and any un-edited video evidence they may have.
I do not see any player named Kyle in the area.

 @TheRoyalMac - Kirill Jares - OP
 @KennethRP - Kenneth Carlsson - POSTED
 @Cuchulainn - Anthony Walsh - POSTED
 @Evil Doritos - Makenzie Miller - POSTED
 @Aaron Michaels - Aaron Michaels - POSTED
 @Josh Price - Josh Price - POSTED
 @Jackstu - John Douglas - POSTED
 @Grayfox - Mokhtar Bashir - POSTED
 @Thormeister - Jack Normann - POSTED
 @LittleBoFo - DeAndre Young - POSTED
 @Lt Stanley - Burke Stanley - POSTED
 @Rutkiy - Daithi Keogh - POSTED

[Aaron Michaels]

Before I start, @Josh Price won't be available until some point late tomorrow, he's at a house party this evening and Uni the day after, I've informed him of this post so he can post anything he may have tomorrow and he has acknowledged that.

 

I came into Vybor with Price as we attempted to head back toward our base not far from town. We spotted 2 guys on the road, Price went up to speak with them and as I was wearing a full black tactical outfit I actually went and hid in a stack of trash bags; camouflaging myself with them as my bag was "damaged" at the time and looked like trash.
Myself and Price then started talking to 2 guys, one of them being Stanley as we had defended Grishino together a few nights ago prior to him leaving the settlement. At this point there was a gentlemen there who was claiming to be a trader; I remember him saying something which angered our characters (myself and Price) in roleplay so we spoke of restraining him with my cuffs. He then disappeared as we were talking to him (This must have been 21:47:19 | Player "Kenneth Carlsson" has been disconnected ??  ) and we laughed as we were threatening him and assumed he had combat logged. As he never entered an animation we then changed our assumption to a crash and brushed it off, jumping back into RP.

We then continued RP as we heard a rain of gunfire behind the school(? Idk, I'm new to DayZ if I'm honest)
Myself, Price and another individual ran around the building to see a body, possible 2? It was surrounded by zombies. Then a guy shouting about possibly being robbed by those guys before he was shot down by the rest of the guys on Stanleys side. 

I'm not sure, what the events were that led to this confrontation nor do I have any recording of the situation itself as my geforce was synced to my OS drive which has like 120gb? and It was full cos my 1tb drive is external and had been knocked lose cos I'm stupid.

 

The hit logs from Price onto the guy are as everyone else around us wanted that guy dead and Price wanted his M4 and we couldn't seem to take it from his body. So we just assumed it was bugged and Price is trigger happy so assumed it was cos he was alive somehow.

 

This probably does nothing to help, sorry guys.

[Bofo]

Hello, this is DeAndre Young

I just logged in during this incident awakening to gunshots, I didn't see anybody die or be engaged on. I went out to where I heard the gunshots, gave a fella some food and water. Stanley asked if we could help him carry some of his dead allies gear back to his camp that he was setting up. 

Edited October 30, 2019 by LittleBoFo
Rephrase

[Thormeister]

My story aligns with @LittleBoFo.

I was outside the schoolhouse when i heard shots from the northern end of town. then Stanley got hit and i helped him up.

I didn't know what the cause was. only that the two guys acted strange and were hostile. 

[Evil Doritos]

I Was nearby the police station when the shooting started i ran over and resuscitated Stanley. There were 4 dead bodys two being from my group.

I Only spoke to Kenneth once when he came into Veybor

Edited October 30, 2019 by Evil Doritos

[Hofer]

As several of the following individuals have been in game and/or visited the forums after being called in, @Lt Stanley, @Josh Price, @Jackstu @Grayfox have been temporarily banned until they respond to this report.

[Grayfox]

I have video evidence of the vybor shootout , i'm uploading it at the moment

POV: (( this is what i remember ))  i met this yellow armband group, i helped them building the base, they came into a russian guy who wasn't quite cooperative so they gave him 10 seconds to leave before they shoot him so he went off then he came back, so they arrested him and threw him into the police station for questioning, after this i left the scene..

 

I did not know any of the people involved in this report so here's my POV as respect to the procedure, Please lift my temp ban

[Hofer]

Thank you @Grayfox your temporary ban has been lifted. Please link the video as soon as you have it.

[Grayfox]

 

[Josh Price]

Hi,

I have a very limited memory of what happened. I was talking to some of the guys after arriving with Michael's and then while I was talking to people I heard a lot of shots so all of us ran over to it. When I was over there we showed up to a dude yelling that people tried to kill him. I approached and tried to get him to lower his weapon as he was very hostile. When I then moved away as the people who were around there I gathered they would deal with him. I walked over to one of the dead people when more people started shooting didn't quite see who at who. I then got cover and walked over to the body which was left and saw he had an m4.

 

While we were all standing around I wanted the m4 so tried to get if off the body however couldn't seem to see it. I then thought the body was bugged and dumped some rounds into the head trying to unbug the gun however didn't work so I then proceeded to follow the guys to their camp and then made my way of with Michael's to our base later on.

[Peril]

Thank you for your POV, @Josh Price, your temporary ban has been lifted.  Please keep an eye on the report for any further questions.

[Rutkiy]

Daithi POV: I go to Vybor with some of my friends, this one lad gets pretty hostile with @Cuchulainn, an ally of mine, and says he was robbing people. He keeps following my friend asking to speak with him for a while in a hostile manner, and all of a sudden puts 2 shotgun shells into my friend with no initiation at all, so I blast him. His friend starts shooting me, with no rights at all, so i return fire, but apparently none of my shots land? I then go uncon and die to a zombie.

[Jackstu]

I don't really know what happened in this incident i was just walking around vybor and i heard gunshots and i ran to them and i seen three guys shooting at each other.

[Rover]

21 minutes ago, Jackstu said:

I don't really know what happened in this incident i was just walking around vybor and i heard gunshots and i ran to them and i seen three guys shooting at each other.

Thank you Jackstu, your temp ban has been removed.

[Lt Stanley]

Hi sorry for being away for a while ive been busy in real life but from what i know in this situation is my freind tom robinson was chasing a guy down for a issue of him aussalting one of our allies and the guy tom chased down kept running away i followed because i didnt know what was going on but all i hear is tom saying stop stop stop and hearing shots and then running up to tom dead so i ran to the guy running away with my men and tell the guy to stop moving and he doesnt litsen and he said no so i put a mag of 556 in him and he turns on me and shoots me or somone does idk who did but i got nocked out. I then got up and healed and found the two people running dead. Idk much more from that since that day ive been off with the marines in real life working out. Sorry if this isnt any help. Let me know if there is anything i can do. @Peril

[Peril]

Thank you for your POV @Lt Stanley, your temp ban has been removed.  Please keep an eye on this thread in case of any further questioning.

[Bumblebee]

Calling in @USMCsullivan for his POV and any video evidence he may have.
He will be temporarily banned until he replies to this report.

[USMCsullivan]

We were in vybor and I was talking with someone that came to trade. He said that a guy at the well was the one who did it and I had him explain what he looked like before we initiated. We went to the well to talk to him and he ran. I told him to stop running and he said no. When I finally caught up to him he stopped briefly and I told him if he moved away I was going to put him unconscious and cuff him.... (at the time no one except stanly and a few of my other guys knew that I only kept non lethal bean bags in my shotguns as I was part of security) I then shot him in the leg after he tried walking back, and it did not put him unconscious, I took a second shot and I woke up randomly somewhere else. 
 

@Fae

I do not have a way to record so I can not provide any evidence of this 

Edited November 4, 2019 by USMCsullivan

[Hofer]

Thank you @USMCsullivan. Your temp ban has been removed.

[Rover]

VERDICT

Metagaming - @Rutkiy, @Cuchulainn, @KennethRP - Inconclusive 

 

REASON

Due to conflicting points of view and no video evidence, the staff team must determine this to be inconclusive, as we can not take the word of one community member over another.

We heavily encourage our players to use a recording software, such as Shadowplay for example, that allows you to grab the last few minutes of gameplay in the event of an unexpected demise. 

We would suggest that when you initiate on someone or proceed to shoot someone you be ready to handle the repercussions of those actions. Your target is not required to disclose who his allies are in the area or what aliases they may be under; by initiating you grant defender rights to those individuals, and they are fully within their rights to protect their allies and kill you. 

As for the combat logging claim on KennethRP, the logs show he was experiencing technical difficulties and crashes.

 

OUTCOME

Metagaming - @Rutkiy, @Cuchulainn, @KennethRP - Inconclusive, no Punishment.

Signed: @Rover, @Fae