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Killing of a compliant hostage and ruleplay, Grishino

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Server and location: Server 1 Grishino

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2019-10-28, 07:29

Your in game name: Jackson Windfrey

Names of allies involved: @Ophelia005 (Ryan) and many more but don't know their forum names

Name of suspect/s: Not sure his name but logs will tell, A member of anarchy

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): n/a

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): n/a

Detailed description of the events: I'm sitting in Grisnino when i hear shots on the hill near the bar, people start freaking out as always, then i hear shots from a red building in town, then i hear ryan yelling "im shot take cover" so we all take cover while bullets are raining into town, everybody takes positions and is ready, then we hear yelling outside the wall "somebody inside shot me". my people in the camp starting yelling to the people out side to hold fire, which the group outside held fire and we negotiated a deal and brought out the guy who opened fire first, they executed him then they told all of us to hold our hands up, some people ran and started shooting but me and a couple other surrender and comply, they told me to "drop all of my weapons" which I dropped every single firearm I had, then they told me to "tie myself up" which I did then complied for about 20 minutes and one of the Hostiles came up to me looked in my inventory and saw I had a knife and a hatchet on my belt, the guy who noticed the knife on my belt said to me "come here" then said "no we can handle this here". He yelled back to his friend and said something along the lines of "you told these guys to drop all their weapons right?" and his friend said "Yes", So he pointed his AKM at me and started firing because I had a knife and a hatchet on my belt while restrained 

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Me and my two boys approached Grishino looking to trade. on are way into town we were engaged by two mean yelling "Put your hands up or die". He forced us to go into town were there were bodies of zombies and players everywhere and about 6 hostages wearing green and white arm bands. we were being yelled at by multiple of the hostage takers to drop are hands and drop all weapons, are backpack, and vest. One of my guys Bones was struggle with the binds because he was new, the hostage takers started to call him retarded and yell even further at him. he tried to say that he need time to think in voip // ooc// looking for binds. he then was shot for back talking and not following commands. we were told to move over with the other hostages and there was some words exchanged and some RP. one of the hostage takers then noticed a knife in the inventory of hostage that was tied up. The Hostage taker then asked his men if they told them to drop all there weapons or die and when one of his men said yes he shot the man in the head. the man who wrote this report.

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Well me bones and Lakota were watching above the town because we had heard shots thinking it was just infected that were being fired at. Eventually we didn't see anyone else running around so we decided to head over to trade. As we begin to approach the compound multiple people emerge from the bushes "put your fucking hands up or die. All of us put up our hands and they take us to the compound. Once they had us against the wall they kept making raise one hand and both switching between the two. At this point it was really hard to tell who was talking as many people were talking and eventually bone got shot. We all pretty much sat there against the wall for awhile, they also shot a guy in the leg but I can't remember why. After awhile they left in a truck and what was left was set free.

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I understand you can read what I wrote before, but honestly I don't have anything else to write. You want my POV? I came back into the server and I walked towards the base. I got held up by two guys with guns idk what guns but you already know what guns I got shot by. I complied and I got shot within 2secs from their countdown from five. That's all I know and I have nothing else to say because I wasn't there IC I know a bunch of stuff OOC because I was told maybe a day after. After joining the discord but honestly I have no clue wtf happened that day and why I died. I am banned because I did not write enough information but I can not explain information I do not know IC. I only explained what happened to me and what happened was I got held up and killed without a single item in my hand. Want to know what my intentions was? My intentions was, walking back to base and dropping off what I looted from the airfield near Grish. I feel like I got wrongfully banned because I wrote two sentences earlier. No I don't have no video evidence of me being killed but you can see the logs I got shot.

This is my POV

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POSITION LOGS

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07:25:09 | Player "Dimitri Tarasov" (pos=<5778.9, 9659.3, 294.9>) 
07:25:09 | Player "Jett Bigler" (pos=<5976.1, 10307.8, 267.2>)
07:25:09 | Player "Thomas Monroe" (pos=<5974.7, 10306.4, 267.4>) 
07:25:09 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" (pos=<5976.9, 10308, 267.6>) 
07:25:09 | Player "Mordecai King" (pos=<5974.0, 10308.2, 267.3>)
07:25:09 | Player "Lakota Fairchild" (pos=<5974.5, 10307.5, 267.3>) 
07:25:09 | Player "Donny Prince" (pos=<5975.6, 10307.4, 267.3>) 
07:25:09 | Player "Arri Graham" (pos=<5946.0, 10295.5, 267.8>) 
07:25:09 | Player "Murphy Mills" (pos=<5976.0, 10309.5, 267.2>) 
07:25:09 | Player "Brandon Munoz" (pos=<5945.6, 13618.1, 233.2>) 
07:25:09 | Player "Ryan Dudley" (pos=<5976.6, 10310.4, 267.2>) 
07:15:09 | Player "Duane Bones" (pos=<5981.5, 10315.1, 267.4>)
07:00:09 | Player "Kevin Khem" (pos=<5661.8, 10101.6, 287.1>)  
07:25:09 | Player "Jivan Simonian" (pos=<5987.8, 10328.7, 267.2>) 

KILL LOGS

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06:57:43 | Player "Johhny Klen" (DEAD) killed by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93477 meters 
06:58:23 | Player "Yuan Ling" (DEAD) killed by Player "Dimitri Reznov" with M4A1 from 4.4086 meters 
06:58:26 | Player "Lee ManAn" (DEAD) killed by Player "Micheal Lovington" with FN SCAR-L from 48.1494 meters 
06:58:37 | Player "Dimitri Reznov" (DEAD) killed by Player "Zac Grayson" with AKM from 8.89222 meters 
06:58:40 | Player "Micheal Lovington" (DEAD) killed by Player "Vincent Dantona" with M4A1 from 16.8267 meters 
06:58:42 | Player "Zac Grayson" (DEAD) killed by Player "Vincent Dantona" with M4A1 from 16.9531 meters 
07:00:44 | Player "Vincent Dantona" (DEAD) killed by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 0.89804 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" (DEAD) killed by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:02:59 | Player "Kevin Khem" (DEAD) killed by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93952 meters 

-HOSTAGE SITUATION AFTER FIREFIGHT-

07:15:47 | Player "Duane Bones" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jivan Simonian" with M4A1 from 12.1383 meters 

07:27:43 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" (DEAD) killed by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.11409 meters

HIT LOGS

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06:57:42 | Player "Johhny Klen" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93477 meters 
06:57:43 | Player "Johhny Klen" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93477 meters 
06:57:43 | Player "Johhny Klen" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93477 meters 
06:57:43 | Player "Johhny Klen" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93477 meters 
06:57:43 | Player "Johhny Klen" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93477 meters 
06:57:43 | Player "Johhny Klen" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93477 meters 
06:58:10 | Player "Vincent Dantona" hit by Player "Micheal Lovington" with FN SCAR-L from 64.0118 meters 
06:58:23 | Player "Yuan Ling" hit by Player "Dimitri Reznov" with M4A1 from 4.4086 meters 
06:58:26 | Player "Lee ManAn" hit by Player "Micheal Lovington" with FN SCAR-L from 48.1494 meters 
06:58:32 | Player "Zac Grayson" hit by Player "Dimitri Reznov" with M4A1 from 4.36506 meters 
06:58:32 | Player "Zac Grayson" hit by Player "Dimitri Reznov" with M4A1 from 4.36506 meters 
06:58:33 | Player "Zac Grayson" hit by Player "Dimitri Reznov" with M4A1 from 4.41445 meters 
06:58:33 | Player "Zac Grayson" hit by Player "Dimitri Reznov" with M4A1 from 4.41445 meters 
06:58:37 | Player "Dimitri Reznov" hit by Player "Zac Grayson" with AKM from 8.89222 meters 
06:58:39 | Player "Micheal Lovington" hit by Player "Vincent Dantona" with M4A1 from 15.5687 meters 
06:58:39 | Player "Micheal Lovington" hit by Player "Vincent Dantona" with M4A1 from 16.3323 meters 
06:58:40 | Player "Micheal Lovington" hit by Player "Vincent Dantona" with M4A1 from 16.8267 meters 
06:58:40 | Player "Micheal Lovington" hit by Player "Vincent Dantona" with M4A1 from 16.8267 meters 
06:58:42 | Player "Zac Grayson" hit by Player "Vincent Dantona" with M4A1 from 16.9531 meters 
06:58:42 | Player "Zac Grayson" hit by Player "Vincent Dantona" with M4A1 from 16.9531 meters 
07:00:44 | Player "Vincent Dantona" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.23723 meters 
07:00:44 | Player "Vincent Dantona" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 0.89804 meters 
07:00:46 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73384 meters 
07:00:46 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 
07:00:47 | Player "Liwanu Langundo" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 4.73413 meters 

07:02:59 | Player "Kevin Khem" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93952 meters 
07:02:59 | Player "Kevin Khem" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.93953 meters 
07:02:59 | Player "Kevin Khem" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.94186 meters 
07:02:59 | Player "Kevin Khem" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 2.0983 meters 
07:02:59 | Player "Kevin Khem" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 2.34197 meters 
07:02:59 | Player "Kevin Khem" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 2.34197 meters 

-HOSTAGE SITUATION AFTER FIREFIGHT-

07:15:47 | Player "Duane Bones" hit by Player "Jivan Simonian" with M4A1 from 12.1383 meters

07:21:47 | Player "Donny Prince" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.32189 meters  

07:27:43 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.11409 meters 
07:27:43 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.11409 meters 
07:27:43 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.11409 meters 
07:27:43 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.11409 meters 
07:27:43 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.11409 meters 
07:27:43 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" hit by Player "Mordecai King" with AKM from 1.21109 meters 

CHAT LOGS

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07:25:06 | Chat("Jackson Windfrey"): *sits on the bench*

CONNECTION LOGS

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06:40:51 | Player "Dimitri Tarasov" is connected
07:19:43 | Player "Dimitri Tarasov" has been disconnected
07:19:50 | Player "Dimitri Tarasov" is connected
07:47:10 | Player "Dimitri Tarasov" has been disconnected

06:49:08 | Player "Jett Bigler" is connected
08:20:30 | Player "Jett Bigler" has been disconnected

06:44:23 | Player "Thomas Monroe" is connected
08:45:09 | Player "Thomas Monroe" has been disconnected

06:40:58 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" is connected
08:15:26 | Player "Jackson Windfrey" has been disconnected

06:41:18 | Player "Mordecai King" is connected
08:35:45 | Player "Mordecai King" has been disconnected

06:40:36 | Player "Lakota Fairchild" is connected
08:45:05 | Player "Lakota Fairchild" has been disconnected

06:40:55 | Player "Donny Prince" is connected
07:57:43 | Player "Donny Prince" has been disconnected

06:40:55 | Player "Arri Graham" is connected
08:27:05 | Player "Arri Graham" has been disconnected

06:40:08 | Player "Murphy Mills" is connected
07:58:43 | Player "Murphy Mills" has been disconnected

06:40:08 | Player "Brandon Munoz" is connected
07:47:37 | Player "Brandon Munoz" has been disconnected

06:40:08 | Player "Ryan Dudley" is connected
08:22:12 | Player "Ryan Dudley" has been disconnected

Calling in the following individuals for their full POV and any un-edited video evidence they may have.

 @perry - Jackson Windfrey - OP
 @jacobwood02 - Jett Bigler - POSTED
 @Breakingglitch - Thomas Monroe - POSTED
 @VegasRP - Mordecai King - POSTED
 @Dumstuff - Lakota Fairchild - POSTED
 @Hoho - Donny Prince - POSTED
 @Murdawg - Murphy Mills - POSTED
 @Ophelia005 - Ryan Dudley - POSTED
 @DemmBones - Duane Bones - POSTED
 @ZorullRP - Jivan Simonian - POSTED

 @Kevin_Khem - Kevin Khem - POSTED

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Don't understand why all of us were called in since Vegas killed OP but here's my POV:

Was going into Grish walking in the front gate when two groups wearing green and white were infront of the gate, as soon as they saw us they dropped EVERYTHING and went back inside the town, closing the gate. Shortly after (within some seconds) my friend Zac is lit up by a guy in the house wearing the same armband as one of the groups inside. He returns fire, then people from the town start running around, shooting outside and I shoot one, after two of them hear one of our guys trying to negotiate we call a cease fire. They decide to hand us over the person who shot at Zac and we deal with him. After that we initiate on all of them and take them hostage along with 3 other people who came towards the town. All hostages were told to remove ALL their weapons many, many, many times or else they'd be killed. I left a little before OP was killed to wait my timer and logged out.

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@Dumstuff, @Breakingglitch, @Kevin_Khem - Please EDIT your existing posts above and update with your full and complete account of the events.

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Yeah so basically I was with my boys, we heard shots at the trader - thinking it was zombies; we went to lend a hand. 

Half way down the hill we were stopped by one unnecessarily aggressive gentleman - "GET YOUR FUCKING HANDS UP OR DIE"

I was having issues with my binds (new standalone player here 🙂 ) & they were honestly looking for any excuse to kill me without any logic behind it. We were 100% cooperative. When I realized these guys were not reasonable, I opened my big mouth & got one tapped by some aussie.

I was all for getting held at gunpoint, I just ask that if you are going to do something like this - that you LEARN how to RP first. Gear-RP ruins the experience for everyone. Might as well play on a public server...

But it wasn't all bad..

This was honestly a s**t-stain on an otherwise amazing night filled of RP. Nothing personally against the groups involved, but more on an individual level. For example: just hours before, we had an EXCELLENT RP experience with an OP of Anarchy members. They stripped our weapons but were otherwise friendly & KNEW HOW TO RP. I don't care about gear or characters, I just care about the experience. & I feel as though these gentleman were not even attempting to RP. I 100% believe they were gear-RP'ing. They were unnecessarily impatient, indirect & contradictory with every single one of their demands. It was IMPOSSIBLE to follow them to a T, which is why so many people were killed in the process.

 

I personally feel like people like this should not be on the server, or at the very least be required to take a "crash-course" on RP & the various elements that come with an immersive robbery. There was so much potential here for a good RP scene but all they care about is being "geared" & looking "military"

FYI, It's the apocalypse...not practical at all & a total immersion breaker.

 

This has been my only bad experience on the server thus far & I hope we can keep situations like this to a minimum.

 

Thanks for hearing me out.

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POV: Initiated on the town after dealing with a guy who tried to kos two of us, I inform those who comply that if we find any weapons on them after telling them to drop all the weapons they have they'd be shot, after some rp with one of the hostages going ooc in voip talking about poking his friend who was muted and overall disinterest from most of the involved party I find a weapon on the OP so he's shot.

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So their excuse for starting combat with us was that someone shot at them when they were in a field and hit them. This is no where in the logs displayed by @Hofer. No hits shown in that log are anywhere near as far as they described them being. With that in mind it is my opinion that the RP was poor and relatively kill hungry. We gave the man over and allowed him to be executed and they still chose to initiate on us. The fact they literally said "hands up or die" kinda shows the mentality imo. Here is the entire unedited video for ya'll to decide for yourselves. P.S Sorry for the background chatter with my friend who was no longer in game, enjoy our salt and shit talking lmao. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Hoho said:

So their excuse for starting combat with us was that someone shot at them when they were in a field and hit them. This is no where in the logs displayed by @Hofer. No hits shown in that log are anywhere near as far as they described them being. With that in mind it is my opinion that the RP was poor and relatively kill hungry. We gave the man over and allowed him to be executed and they still chose to initiate on us. The fact they literally said "hands up or die" kinda shows the mentality imo. Here is the entire unedited video for ya'll to decide for yourselves. P.S Sorry for the background chatter with my friend who was no longer in game, enjoy our salt and shit talking lmao. 

 

Gonna look at the video later but the first person who shot at us as you can see in the video he admitted to it as well.

I'd also like to mention that just by briefly looking at the video I can hear you guys clearly hating and flaming us. Also you do realize that you are not allowed to transmit information when your radio is taken away, something which you and your friends repeatedly did throughout the entire encounter, ignoring our roleplay. At 32:20 you can easily hear someone calling us faggots among other things. This video if anything incriminates all of you heavily. Also at the start of the video you all talk on TS/Discord without hotmicing it in-game either. I'd also like to point out that you literally called your hostage taker 'babe'.

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How would that incriminates us all? most of us had no part in that discord conversation. nor in their discord

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10 minutes ago, perry said:

How would that incriminates us all? most of us had no part in that discord conversation. nor in their discord

It incriminates the person who posted the video, who clearly is transmitting IC information OOC to people who could've been you and people who are also replying back. Also at the very start of the video everyone is talking with each other about IC stuff on Discord, so it's clearly people who were in-game and he wasn't hotmicing in-game as well. Regardless of who it was, he was transmitting information on TeamSpeak without speaking in-game. Also it shows clear OOC hate against us.

EDIT: After looking at the video again I can see it is 1 person on Discord but regardless of that it's still information being transmitted to another group member/DayZRP member which is metagaming, giving IC information OOC when the person was restrained. Not to mention the other person literally called us faggots. It also shows the person did not prioritize the roleplay and instead prioritized talking on Discord.

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34 minutes ago, Hoho said:

So their excuse for starting combat with us was that someone shot at them when they were in a field and hit them. This is no where in the logs displayed by @Hofer. No hits shown in that log are anywhere near as far as they described them being. With that in mind it is my opinion that the RP was poor and relatively kill hungry. We gave the man over and allowed him to be executed and they still chose to initiate on us. The fact they literally said "hands up or die" kinda shows the mentality imo. Here is the entire unedited video for ya'll to decide for yourselves. P.S Sorry for the background chatter with my friend who was no longer in game, enjoy our salt and shit talking lmao. 

 

41:00 - 43:00 is when the incident takes place

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9 minutes ago, perry said:

41:00 - 43:00 is when the incident takes place

You were killed by Vegas, regardless of that however the whole video still shows clear OOC hate/disregarding roleplay as well as metagaming.

EDIT: The person involved in the video was @bigmac that called us 'faggots', someone we've seen in Grishino multiple times before, probably affiliated with your group.

I'd also like to mention that he is obviously a DayZRP member so you were transmitting IC information to someone else who could've easily taken action, hence the metagaming, OOC hate by another community member as well as you (you being the person who posted the video) disregarding roleplay, commenting on it the whole time with negative remarks and so on and so on.

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Yes, I roleplay with @bigmac but does thay make me responsible if he brakes the rules? I did not break any rules in this encounter. I'm here to report what happened at 41:00 - 43:00, nothing else, If you feel bigmac or hoho broke the rules then take it up with them.

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10 minutes ago, perry said:

Yes, I roleplay with @bigmac but does thay make me responsible if he brakes the rules? I did not break any rules in this encounter. I'm here to report what happened at 41:00 - 43:00, nothing else, If you feel bigmac or hoho broke the rules then take it up with them.

You didn't break the rules but the person who posted the video did and the person who was also on Discord with the video poster did by calling us faggots and "fucking bitches" around 18:35, also I'd like to mention that the other person in the video with the video poster was asking for someone with a floral shirt (we did have someone with a floral shirt) and @Hoho responds which only just proves the metagaming.

Also I'd like to point out that at 24:04 @Hoho calls us "such fucking cunts". 

I'd like to mention that according to the logs Dimitri Reznov was there and killed one of us, @bigmac kept transmitting information about the situation around 25:00-28:00 after he had died, also metagaming.

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49 minutes ago, JimRP said:

It incriminates the person who posted the video, who clearly is transmitting IC information OOC to people who could've been you and people who are also replying back. Also at the very start of the video everyone is talking with each other about IC stuff on Discord, so it's clearly people who were in-game and he wasn't hotmicing in-game as well. Regardless of who it was, he was transmitting information on TeamSpeak without speaking in-game. Also it shows clear OOC hate against us.

EDIT: After looking at the video again I can see it is 1 person on Discord but regardless of that it's still information being transmitted to another group member/DayZRP member which is metagaming, giving IC information OOC when the person was restrained. Not to mention the other person literally called us faggots. It also shows the person did not prioritize the roleplay and instead prioritized talking on Discord.

I was talking to one person who was already dead and who speaking to had no chance of effecting the outcome. Secondly to address the statement of  "focusing on discord and not the roleplay" What roleplay? It was basically just stripping and listening with a sprinkle of talk at the beginning and end.

 

I posted the entire video as to not hide anything including my own, all be it non important transgressions. If staff deems me talking to my friend who is no longer in game about what is occurring as not okay, then I will accept whatever punishment is deemed fit for that mistake. It's not like I said anything that would effect the situation. I wasn't calling out for reinforcements or even speaking to someone who was still in game. Btw I find this statement "Not to mention the other person literally called us faggots."  ironic seeing as one of your boys called people in the line up "retard" & "faggot". My actions are my own and they shouldn't stand to obfuscate your guys.

Have a good night everyone, If I don't respond please hmu on discord (Hoholord#0148) as I rarely check the forums ❤️ .

 

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Forgot to ask in regards to this:"OOC hate by another community member as well" , so is it no okay to be negative in a private discord call with someone? Those views would have never been heard publicly if it were not for a report I was asked to supply evidence in by a staff member. So genuinely asking not just being an ass, are we not allowed to have privately held negative opinions? Or is it just because I posted it? Not sure if I am just miss understanding you or not @JimRP.

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3 minutes ago, Hoho said:

I was talking to one person who was already dead and who speaking to had no chance of effecting the outcome. Secondly to address the statement of  "focusing on discord and not the roleplay" What roleplay? It was basically just stripping and listening with a sprinkle of talk at the beginning and end.

 

I posted the entire video as to not hide anything including my own, all be it non important transgressions. If staff deems me talking to my friend who is no longer in game about what is occurring as not okay, then I will accept whatever punishment is deemed fit for that mistake. It's not like I said anything that would effect the situation. I wasn't calling out for reinforcements or even speaking to someone who was still in game. Btw I find this statement "Not to mention the other person literally called us faggots."  ironic seeing as one of your boys called people in the line up "retard" & "faggot". My actions are my own and they shouldn't stand to obfuscate your guys.

Have a good night everyone, If I don't respond please hmu on discord (Hoholord#0148) as I rarely check the forums ❤️ .

Your friend is clearly OOCly hating on us and so are you, he was there, gave you IC information after he had died while you were still alive and you also transmitted IC information back to him, doesn't matter if he didn't act on it. We RP'd with you the entire hour while you spent 50 minutes clearly ignoring us and the few times you did roleplay was when you stripped yourself entirely naked, said you shit yourself, called Vegas 'babe' and so on. ICly calling you "retards" is entirely different to calling other people "bunch of cunts", "bitches", "faggots" OOCly, which you and your friend did.

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2 minutes ago, JimRP said:

Your friend is clearly OOCly hating on us and so are you, he was there, gave you IC information after he had died while you were still alive and you also transmitted IC information back to him, doesn't matter if he didn't act on it. We RP'd with you the entire hour while you spent 50 minutes clearly ignoring us and the few times you did roleplay was when you stripped yourself entirely naked, said you shit yourself, called Vegas 'babe' and so on. ICly calling you "retards" is entirely different to calling other people "bunch of cunts", "bitches", "faggots" OOCly, which you and your friend did.

So basically if you like why someone said a slur it's ok... call me crazy but that sounds like a pretty fat double standard.

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Just now, Hoho said:

So basically if you like why someone said a slur it's ok... call me crazy but that sounds like a pretty fat double standard.

IC is IC, that's our characters and if at any moment you feel uncomfortable with it you're more than welcome to type in chat // I'm not comfortable with your slurs, please stop.

OOC is you in a real life level hating on us.

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2 minutes ago, JimRP said:

IC is IC, that's our characters and if at any moment you feel uncomfortable with it you're more than welcome to type in chat // I'm not comfortable with your slurs, please stop.

OOC is you in a real life level hating on us.

I can see your point, I just see it completely differently from someone voicing it publicly. Not like I went and flamed in the discord chat or broke RP(I didn't even report this whole shitshow because I don't like arguing on forums with people). Also on the note of me taking my pants off I didn't wanna get shot so I was just throwin' stuff off. Me saying babe is simply how I speak, I did immediately regret it and roleplayed as terrified of the consequences. 

I earnestly try my hardest when roleplaying no matter the situation, that's why I play on here in the first place. I am genuinely sorry if any of you felt I wasn't taking it seriously or giving enough attention to it. 

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Just now, Hoho said:

I can see your point, I just see it completely differently from someone voicing it publicly. Not like I went and flamed in the discord chat or broke RP(I didn't even report this whole shitshow because I don't like arguing on forums with people). Also on the note of me taking my pants off I didn't wanna get shot so I was just throwin' stuff off. Me saying babe is simply how I speak, I did immediately regret it and roleplayed as terrified of the consequences. 

I earnestly try my hardest when roleplaying no matter the situation, that's why I play on here in the first place. I am genuinely sorry if any of you felt I wasn't taking it seriously or giving enough attention to it. 

This is going to be my last reply, it's just ironic that you guys are calling us kill hungry etc while you can see in your video that you spend 50 minutes ignoring us, flaming us with your friend, metagaming while blatantly ignoring us and not prioritizing the roleplay while you can see us for a full hour roleplaying with you and the rest of the hostages. That's about it, it's up to the GMs now.

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@jacobwood02 @Murdawg @BOB ROSS 1000 @Ophelia005 @ZorullRP @Kevin_Khem have all been temp banned for failing to provide your POVs.

Please provide your full and detailed points of view and any video evidence you may have.

Thank you

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Hi im Ryan Dudley my pov was that the roleplay was very dry and boring when they got into town they insanely were hostile and we complied with them during the situation i got shot and roleplayed as if i needed help/ medical attention and they ignored it as well at the end of the roleplay asked if i was just sick with i clearly was indicating to being shot which was horrible roleplay on their end, during the end of the roleplay robbery they instantly shot jackson due to him having a knife on his belt even tho they had him tied up and he was no threat and he was also being very cooperative with them not making any hostile gestures or saying anything hostile and they still proceeded to just shoot him without any warning then they stole all our guns and just left i was left with no guns or knives 

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