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Server and location: Server 1 prison island

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2019-10-13, 03:00

Your in game name: Jackson McMillan

Names of allies involved: Lev Yelagin, 2 quarantined members (don't have their names) and Dustin Hammer

Name of suspect/s: Unknown

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): logs should show the firefight ceased quite a while before I was shot, and then myself and another 2 guys randomly got shot at from a bush. We also suspect the person that shot us had just recently logged on, however we are unsure.

Detailed description of the events: there was a massive firefight at prison island, and after the firefight was over, we found 2 guys inside a building and started trying to find out who they were, which they refused to say who they were with and kept calling us Anarchy (as we obviously are not). The server then restarted, and negotiations continued from there after all parties were back in game. No initiation was made (other than some shots fired at the beginning of the negotiation) and then one of our friends (Dustin Hammer) swam out to the island and we went to the shore to meet him. We then escorted him up to help us negotiate. Then as negotiations continued, we noticed someone else swimming up to the island who was unknown. Upon meeting him, I was able to confirm he was a member of the quarantined as I had met him before. And as we were walking back up to the negotiations, we were shot out of nowhere from a bush. Lev Yelagin managed to kill the person, but not after they killed myself and the quarantined member that had swam up to the island moments ago (who was in no way a part of the current engagements.) 

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Massive firefight STILL going on at prison, 2 of my boys are unside of camo building sorrunded by people outside and with a hostage inside aswell, i spot 4 people just outside wearing white armbands and with weapons out walking straight to the camo building and i fire at them killing 2 and dying to the 3rd. 

Still was an active firefight, with one of your people hostage inside. You admitting to this yourself 

9 minutes ago, Nexino said:

we found 2 guys inside a building and started trying to find out who they were. No initiation was made (other than some shots fired at the beginning of the negotiation)

You actively were taking part in that firefight and even was bringing people onto the island to participate in it. I dont get the point of this report. 

You wanna stay alive? Dont take part in combat. 

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There were no shots being fired nor were there any hostile actions being made towards the guys in the building. The firefight had been over for at least 10 minutes before we found them, and then there was a server restart, which after negotiations continued for at least another 30 minutes before I was shot. We had no clue who the guys in the building were so we were trying to get them to come out of the building so we could figure out who they were. 

 

And for your information your 2 guys ran off of the island ~ 30 minutes ago, so the firefight has been over for more than an hour

 

And the hostage wasn't one of hours. He is a solo player who ran up on everything happening and I asked if he could negotiate on our behalf as the 2 inside the building weren't wanting to negotiate with us. 

Also at the end of the day I didn't make this report to argue. I made this report so that admins can check the logs and find our definitively what happened instead of the constant back and forth "he said she said" BS that happens after stuff like this. 

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I'm just gonna post my POV here now so I can go to bed.

For the record, I'm Lev Yelagin.

Me, Jackson, and the two Quarantined members are walking up from the  coast after retrieving one of the two quarantined guys from the coast. We immediately take fire after crossing the small bend in the road. Yellow-jacketed Quarantined guy gets fragged, as does Jackson. Seeing where the shooter is, I light the bush up with more fire than the bible. After that, me and the other Quarantined guy take fire from another dude from the coast, and that guy gets capped by Quarantined guy. Me and him both run away inside, where I promptly crash due to BattleEye Query, fight that for ten minutes, get back on, and wait out the combat timer (plus extra, just in case, I think). As two guys are at the gate of the base, I crash again, and having not really been involved in the RP going on, just chose to call it a night.

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🤦🏻‍♂️

I would like to counter report @Nexino for lying in a report and false report. 

Our boys inside initiated multiple times on ALL the people outside, what he claims to be non initiation "negotiations" are a straight up lie, and he was there with full knowledge of whats going on, knowing the fight was still on and that he was initiated on. 

 

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posting my POV because it been a long day and i need  to sleep 

POV- after waiting my hour from dying before, i return to the island which i was told  negotiations were going on. from this i  came to the conclusion the  fighting came to a end. by this time, no  one who was apart of the original initiation  was still alive. I found a yellow car and made my  return and found my self face to face with the  Federation group, and a  friend.  they talked to me for a short  second and gave me a gun so i can use to walk  back to the main part of the prison .  before we even made if half way up the small hill by the docks at the prison  a person shot me and killed me. during that whole time i did not ever hear a  initiation -end of POV

Note- i did go to a staff member  about this issue and he cleared up some of it  on how ruling may be taken. 

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Posting my POV since I was one of the Quarantined boys

After making my way back to the island I met up with some of the Federation boys, they informed me of the ongoing situation at the admin building on prison island. After awhile of role-playing with them one of my friends made the swim to the island, me, Wbtrex (Lev Yelagin) and another federation member went down to meet him on the shoreline, we gave him a rifle so he could defend himself as we took him back to the prison. barely half-way up the hill someone came out of the bushes and gunned down the one federation guy and my group member (Isaac Lineheart) without initiation on Isaac as he just arrived he had nothing to do with the current situation. Shortly afterwards another guy came from the shore and opened fire (once again without initiation) before flanking and killing him. After that me and Lev fell back to the prison and held up and waited the situation out.

I'd like to also mention I never heard a single initiation from any of the enemy group. (But I was down on the shoreline for awhile so I may have not heard it) also neither me or Isaac were wearing white armbands or armbands in general.

Additionally, Isaac had absolutely no intention of getting involved with the situation and just wanted to get back to the prison and log for the night.

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27 minutes ago, Padlock said:

they informed me of the ongoing situation at the admin building

 

28 minutes ago, Padlock said:

we gave him a rifle so he could defend himself

This is just self incrimination at this point. 

Why, if OP said there was no hostile situation going on was he given a rifle "to defend himself" ? From what exactly? I though you said the firefight was long over and the camo building is being negotiated and no initiation took place ?

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Connection Logs:

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02:07:21 | Player "Jackson McMillan" is connected
- Dead -
03:18:11 | Player "Jackson McMillan" has been disconnected

02:50:51 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" is connected
- Dead -
02:57:09 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" has been disconnected

02:21:30 | Player "Alexis Merko" is connected
- Dead -
02:58:38 | Player "Alexis Merko" has been disconnected

02:45:59 | Player "Lev Yelagin" is connected
03:01:42 | Player "Lev Yelagin" has been disconnected
- Server Crash/Restart -
03:02:20 | Player "Lev Yelagin" has been disconnected
03:14:38 | Player "Lev Yelagin" is connected
03:29:10 | Player "Lev Yelagin" has been disconnected
- Server Crash/Restart -
03:29:51 | Player "Lev Yelagin" has been disconnected

02:15:09 | Player "Daniel Graves" is connected
04:17:18 | Player "Daniel Graves" has been disconnected

02:39:26 | Player "Sassy Sassov" is connected
03:04:51 | Player "Sassy Sassov" has been disconnected

02:49:51 | Player "Hector Gomez" is connected
03:58:07 | Player "Hector Gomez" has been disconnected

02:07:59 | Player "Igor Macek" is connected
- Dead -
02:57:02 | Player "Igor Macek" has been disconnected

02:07:21 | Player "Mehmet Ayibogan" is connected
- Dead - (Another Firefight)
04:25:25 | Player "Mehmet Ayibogan" has been disconnected

02:08:20 | Player "Dustin Hammer" is connected
03:27:38 | Player "Dustin Hammer" has been disconnected
03:28:07 | Player "Dustin Hammer" is connected
03:47:46 | Player "Dustin Hammer" has been disconnected

Hit Logs:

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02:53:09 | Player "Jackson McMillan" hit by Player "Jonathan Shmeck" with M417 from 17.8301 meters 
02:53:09 | Player "Jackson McMillan" hit by Player "Jonathan Shmeck" with M417 from 17.8301 meters 
02:53:10 | Player "Alexis Merko" hit by Player "Jonathan Shmeck" with M417 from 15.8632 meters 
02:53:10 | Player "Alexis Merko" hit by Player "Jonathan Shmeck" with M417 from 15.8632 meters

02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 12.2167 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.9042 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.7418 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.7418 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.7418 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.2346 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.0888 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.0888 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.0888 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.0888 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.0888 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 10.867 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 10.7321 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 10.7321 meters 
02:53:14 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 10.3252 meters 
02:53:14 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 10.4517 meters
02:55:20 | Player "Alexis Merko" hit by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 17.2295 meters 

02:53:39 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Daniel Graves" with M4A1 from 1.0777 meters 
02:53:39 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" hit by Player "Daniel Graves" with M4A1 from 1.0777 meters 
02:55:35 | Player "Sassy Sassov" hit by Player "Daniel Graves" with M4A1 from 29.7352 meters 
02:55:35 | Player "Sassy Sassov" hit by Player "Daniel Graves" with M4A1 from 29.7352 meters 
02:55:35 | Player "Sassy Sassov" hit by Player "Daniel Graves" with M4A1 from 29.7352 meters 
02:55:36 | Player "Sassy Sassov" hit by Player "Daniel Graves" with M4A1 from 28.9457 meters 
02:55:36 | Player "Sassy Sassov" hit by Player "Daniel Graves" with M4A1 from 28.9006 meters

02:55:19 | Player "Lev Yelagin" hit by Player "Sassy Sassov" with AKM from 57.4843 meters
02:55:19 | Player "Daniel Graves" hit by Player "Sassy Sassov" with AKM from 52.7203 meters

02:55:31 | Player "Hector Gomez" hit by Player "Igor Macek" with FN-FAL from 2.30502 meters 

02:55:31 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.54725 meters 
02:55:31 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.58027 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.61027 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.61027 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.61027 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.57717 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.66388 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.66388 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.85258 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.85258 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.85258 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.9282 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 3.08278 meters 

Kill Logs:

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02:53:09 | Player "Jackson McMillan" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jonathan Shmeck" with M417 from 17.8301 meters 
02:53:10 | Player "Alexis Merko" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jonathan Shmeck" with M417 from 15.8632 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" (DEAD) killed by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.7418 meters 
02:55:32 | Player "Igor Macek" (DEAD) killed by Player "Hector Gomez" with PPSKN42 from 2.61027 meters 
02:55:35 | Player "Sassy Sassov" (DEAD) killed by Player "Daniel Graves" with M4A1 from 29.7352 meters 

ChatLogs:

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02:46:01 | Chat("Hector Gomez"): //yes
02:46:16 | Chat("Hector Gomez"): //night
03:40:45 | Chat("Hector Gomez"): *searches for radio//do i find any


Calling in the following people to post their Point of Views & any video evidence they may have:
@Nexino | Jackson McMillan | OP
@JewRP | Jonathan Shmeck | POSTED
@isaac lineheart | Alexis Merko | POSTED
@Wbtrex | Lev Yelagin | POSTED
@Padlock | Daniel Graves | POSTED
@SassyRP | Sassy Sassov | POSTED
@DK_Major | Hector Gomez | POSTED
@bob123 | Igor Macek | POSTED
@TurkRP | Mehmet Ayibogan | POSTED
@BravoActual | Dustin Hammer | POSTED

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1 hour ago, Padlock said:

Posting my POV since I was one of the Quarantined boys

After making my way back to the island I met up with some of the Federation boys, they informed me of the ongoing situation at the admin building on prison island. After awhile of role-playing with them one of my friends made the swim to the island, me, Wbtrex (Lev Yelagin) and another federation member went down to meet him on the shoreline, we gave him a rifle so he could defend himself as we took him back to the prison. barely half-way up the hill someone came out of the bushes and gunned down the one federation guy and my group member (Isaac Lineheart) without initiation on Isaac as he just arrived he had nothing to do with the current situation. Shortly afterwards another guy came from the shore and opened fire (once again without initiation) before flanking and killing him. After that me and Lev fell back to the prison and held up and waited the situation out.

I'd like to also mention I never heard a single initiation from any of the enemy group. (But I was down on the shoreline for awhile so I may have not heard it) also neither me or Isaac were wearing white armbands or armbands in general.

Additionally, Isaac had absolutely no intention of getting involved with the situation and just wanted to get back to the prison and log for the night.

@Realize Already posted my POV

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My POV,

I get information that there's hostiles at the island and that it was getting actively raided. My allies and I begin to approach the island, getting involved in a small skirmish closer to the coast that goes nowhere due to the darkness. We follow along and get no visuals of any enemy, checking in with allies to see how many are alive and where they are, so we start searching buildings, an ally of mine entering one and immediately getting gunned down, with another following soon after. I start holding the building down, re-initiating along with another friendly. The server crashes, everyone eventually gets back in, and we resume what we've been doing. After a decent amount of time holding the building down, massive gunfire springs out from the northern side of the island, people on the radio giving information like 'got the guy,' etc. More time passes, not too long after, and more gun shots start to ring off, to where allies holding the building down get distracted to go assist the northern side. I try to re position, running off, only to pop up on one of the guys who was holding the original building down, dying. After that, considering it was late, I logged off and have no further information on the situation.

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POV: Our boys were in the admin building on Prison island having a fight i swim over and see two i start shooting at them get ghost bullets and reload and start to light them up again then get shot in the back.

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According to @bob123's POV he definetly knew there was a fight and he wasnt even on the island in the 1st place, again how can you claim there was no fight with a POV stating this, mind you this is already the part where our boys are inside of camo building, what you csll a "no initiation ever happened" and it was just "negotiations"

1 hour ago, bob123 said:

an ally of mine entering one and immediately getting gunned down, with another following soon after. I start holding the building down, re-initiating along with another friendly

This further proves my point of you knowing that this is an active firefight zone, but completely lying about this in the report. 

9 hours ago, Nexino said:

There were no shots being fired nor were there any hostile actions being made towards the guys in the building.

 

9 hours ago, Nexino said:

We had no clue who the guys in the building were so we were trying to get them to come out of the building so we could figure out who they were

Definetly doesnt sound like that according to the POV above. 

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2 hours ago, bob123 said:

I start holding the building down, re-initiating along with another friendly. The server crashes, everyone eventually gets back in, and we resume what we've been doing. 

This event here is prior to the restart mentioned in my OP as the server didn't go down again after the restart through this whole event. (the "crash" mentioned is the restart itself)

2 hours ago, bob123 said:

My POV,

I get information that there's hostiles at the island and that it was getting actively raided. My allies and I begin to approach the island, getting involved in a small skirmish closer to the coast that goes nowhere due to the darkness. 

This here was from the very beginning of the "massive firefight" mentioned in my OP as it was daytime throughout all events after the firefight. (only quoting bob to add a sense of time to his POV)

2 hours ago, SassyRP said:

POV: Our boys were in the admin building on Prison island having a fight i swim over and see two i start shooting at them get ghost bullets and reload and start to light them up again then get shot in the back.

There was an extreme lack of gunshots/threatening remarks for there to be a fight. Also, I was watching the shoreline the whole time and the only people that swam over were all greeted at the shore and confirmed as friendly. 

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Holding down the admin building at prison island with my buddy @DK_Major when one of them walks in and gets straight up gassed, another one tries to do the same for some reason and gets his ass kicked aswell. At this point we are pinned down in the building surrounded by 5/7 guys. They try throwing in some grenades but while doing that i gass one of them which makes him drop the grenade and die from it himself. Radio over to allies who are close/on the island about whereouts and locations. Some rp goesby about negotiations which lead to nowhere but me reinitiating again on everyone outside the admin building telling them to put their hands up and stand in the open where i can see them. They decline and get killed for it. At this point me and my buddy push out while they are distracted, Dk_Major gassed another one in the progress, we watch the last survivors run back crying to the main prison while we get some weapons and decide to call it for the day (as it was 5/6am for me).

Wanna clear out some points, in no way the firefight was OVER, the firefight was still actively going on with you guys just holding the building from the outside and us from the inside. Initiations were made each time aswell as minutes before my allies gassed y'all. In one of the OP POV's there is said that one of OP's came to the island not knowing about the firefight (??) and only to log in the prison but meanwhile he regears and KNOWINGLY joins the actively going on firefight.

Another subject of the firefight is NLR, while we were holding the admin building 1 of them runs up to their allies outside and tells them he got picked up by and got a ride back to the island/shore after getting injured (talking about killed i guess) and wants a weapon to gass us inside the building. Want to counter report the OP and his allies for lying in a report (Besides their ally Bob123 since he is the only one not lying in his pov and actually proves our pov's aswell) at no point the firefight was stopped, reinitiations were made all the time & NLR.

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POV: We were holding down the prison island admin building. We were pinned within the building surrounded by 5-7 guys, throughout the entire situation words are exchanged between the groups and they tell us a few times to come out with our hands up and we wont be harmed. Me and my ally radio for allies that are close by and Turk tells the people outside to put their hands up and stand in the open and when they decline our allies open fire on them and we open fire on them. 

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As I stated previously I was watching the shoreline, so I wasn't a part of the negotiations. From what I had hear, the men inside the building were supposedly friendly but thought we were anarchy. So I was under the impression everyone was friendly but just confused about who was who. I myself never heard anyone re-initiate nor was I informed of any re-initiation by my allies. 

Either way, I would like to point out that the person that killed myself and my ally logged on in a bush less than 3 minutes prior to killing us. Meaning he logged into a fight/base that he wasn't previously part of. Seeing as if he was previously involved and logged off where he did that would be combat logging since apparently there were re-initiations throughout these events. 

02:50:51 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" is connected
02:53:09 | Player "Jackson McMillan" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jonathan Shmeck" with M417 from 17.8301 meters 
02:53:10 | Player "Alexis Merko" (DEAD) killed by Player "Jonathan Shmeck" with M417 from 15.8632 meters 
02:53:13 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" (DEAD) killed by Player "Lev Yelagin" with M4A1 from 11.7418 meters 

02:57:09 | Player "Jonathan Shmeck" has been disconnected

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When in doubt, callout. lmao. 

I loggged in, the member from my approved group was still in an active firefight, which grants me rights.  There was no combat logging since i died in the situation.

Stop grasping at straws, realize that you were in an approved group and was killed in a firefight you were clearely present and active for,  and knew was still going on. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, JewRP said:

I loggged in, the member from my approved group was still in an active firefight, which grants me rights. 

 

 

Correct me if I’m wrong, but you did log into a base that was being raided. And then you shot us without initiating yourself or your friends initiating after you logged on. 

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They initiated after i logged aswell, also had a hostage inside.

I have no idea how you understood that wrong, i also recommmend you take a good read at the rules since you have no idea what are even groups rights lmao 

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I don’t get the point of the whole report, all i can see is misscommunication between you and your friends/allies. I initiated multiple times to EVERYONE outside the building, does not matter where you were at the time because you had groupmembers of you who were there. 

 

I wanna point out how the OP is blatantly lying in a report, keeps on bringing points who have nothing to do with the report and keeps on replying to our pov’s which forces us to reply aswell.

 

Multiple times i noted that youall had to put your hands up and get to the middle of the fields where i could see you all or get shot, even noted that even tho you guys thought you surrounded us we were the one who actually surrounded you. 

 

I wanna counterreport for ruleplay aswell, approved groups sends knowingly someone inside to negotiate with us, we take him hostage but we can’t set up and demands as he is not in there approved group.

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