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S1-Vybor-Metagaming/NVFL- 2019-10-06, 04:54

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Server and location: S1- Vybor 

Approximate time and date of the incident (SERVER TIME): 2019-10-06, 04:54

Your in game name: Tupolev Pavlovich

Names of allies involved: @CaptainChips @Johnny Malong @daemonium @LoadedVoltage @BroJack_4se_Man @Kailen Olsen

 

 

Name of suspect/s: Anarchy? 

Friendly/Enemy vehicles involved (if any): N/A

Additional evidence? (video/screenshot): 

 

Detailed description of the events: We all were about to log off for the night, until we got an idea that we should do a raid on Anarchy because we were tired of their banditry so we decided to meet at Green Mountain and gather the troops. We gather an eight man squad and we take off to Anarchy's checkpoint intending to get into a massive firefight, we get to the checkpoint between Vybor and Kabinino and we find the base empty so we start looting we are there for about 10 minutes. Someone in a red shirt walked to the base/spawned in and we asked who he was and we initiated on him ,he opened fired on us killing two of our guys we freak out and get into cover, until I see him in a bush inside of the base, I try to shoot him but I was killed. After I was killed several of members of Anarchy spawn in the base and start killing us.

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My POV:
I log onto dayz, our boy is in combat at the checkpoint. I run down and help out my boy @SeversonRP and we kill all but one of the people, because apparently he escapes. For a more detailed description of how the fight went for me, I ran around to the vybor side gate and see someone in a jug suit peaking a corner, so I peak around and shoot him in the head a few times, then I proceed to throw a toxic gas in the compound, yet there is none left at this point.

The fact that you report someone for NVFL when they dont die during the entire firefight is ridiculous because that proves that you obviously did not read the rules of the server. One of your lads said, "he looks pretty unscathed." So if anything your life was not valued for initiating on @SeversonRP since he was able to take out your group without getting hurt.

In the video you are clearly also metagaming because there were lots of callouts that were not called in game and just said through discord.

Also this report is obviously false and just the op is just mad at the outcome of the fight, as can be seen by the FLAMING that was happening in the DayzRP discord. And Messages sent to me by @daemonium, I will post multiple screenshots to show the DMs between us where he proceeds to call @JimRP an "idiot" for not knowing the definition of anarchy. This conversation started with me asking for "Perms to log" which were accepted.
http://prntscr.com/pfjxke
http://prntscr.com/pfjxns
http://prntscr.com/pfjxq5
Just a few of the occasions of flame in the discord
http://prntscr.com/pfjyu2
http://prntscr.com/pfjyvy
http://prntscr.com/pfjyzl
 

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@YoMoney Your recording suddenly starts and suddenly cuts out after you die and state "I'm dead". We do not accept edited video evidence. Please include the full recording.

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After thinking over this situation and talking with the people involved we would like to close this report.

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No Thank you sir, I would like to keep this report open to clear up Anarchys name a bit from some of the false Accusations many folks provide. POV coming in a moment.

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5 minutes ago, YoMoney said:

After thinking over this situation and talking with the people involved we would like to close this report.

@YoMoney can you say who you spoke to, becuase as far as I know you are lying. we havnt talked with you about it, so were keeping it open.

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Let me rephrase, I spoke to the people who participated in the raid and we felt it wasn't worth it we weren't aware we had to consult you guys before asking the report to be closed, sorry if I was not clear in my statement before.

And on the recording topic, I did trim the video and deleted the original recording to save space on my computer. 

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10 minutes ago, YoMoney said:

Let me rephrase, I spoke to the people who participated in the raid and we felt it wasn't worth it we weren't aware we had to consult you guys before asking the report to be closed, sorry if I was not clear in my statement before.

And on the recording topic, I did trim the video and deleted the original recording to save space on my computer. 

So you admit to deleting evidence?

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3 minutes ago, BandsRP said:

So you admit to deleting evidence?

I deleted the original recording before I made the report.

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The staff team reviewed the request to close the report and have decided we will not be honoring the request as the accused does not agree.

 

The report will remain open and run to its conclusion.

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Hit logs:

03:25:03 | Player "Luke Britt" hit by Player "Arri Graham" into LeftHand(46) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 177.233 meters 


04:40:09 | Player "Jack Ludwig" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into LeftHand(46) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.74739 meters 
04:40:09 | Player "Jack Ludwig" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into LeftArm(32) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.74739 meters 

04:40:09 | Player "Blake Anderson" hit by Player "Jack Ludwig" into RightLeg(4) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.53689 meters

04:40:09 | Player "Jack Ludwig" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into Head(0) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.53689 meters 
04:40:09 | Player "Jack Ludwig" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into Torso(23) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.27564 meters 

04:40:10 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into Torso(15) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.92601 meters 
04:40:10 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into LeftHand(46) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.92251 meters 
04:40:10 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into LeftArm(29) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.92251 meters 
04:40:10 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into Torso(25) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.92251 meters 
04:40:10 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into Torso(1) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.90608 meters 
04:40:10 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into Lungs(49) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.90608 meters 
04:40:10 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into RightArm(30) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 6.90608 meters 
04:40:11 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into LeftArm(22) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 7.21986 meters 
04:40:11 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into LeftArm(21) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 7.21986 meters 
04:40:11 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into LeftArm(18) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 7.35344 meters 
04:40:11 | Player "Johnny Malong" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" into LeftArm(22) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 7.35344 meters 
  
04:41:01 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into Torso(16) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 14.3243 meters 
04:41:01 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into RightLeg(6) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 13.6078 meters 
04:41:01 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into RightLeg(6) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 13.3263 meters 
04:41:01 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into LeftLeg(11) for 23.8189 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 13.3263 meters 
04:41:01 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into LeftLeg(11) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 13.1151 meters 
04:41:01 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into Torso(12) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 12.8239 meters 
04:41:01 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into LeftArm(22) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 12.5577 meters 
04:41:02 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into LeftArm(18) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 13.0337 meters 
04:41:02 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into Torso(16) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 13.6843 meters 
04:41:02 | Player "Jaren Ward" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into RightArm(30) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 13.9765 meters 

04:41:04 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into RightHand(47) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.7862 meters 
04:41:04 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into RightArm(19) for 50.2362 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.7862 meters 
04:41:04 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into Torso(24) for 25.1181 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.7862 meters 
04:41:04 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into Torso(23) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.7941 meters 
04:41:04 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" hit by Player "Semaj Jamerson" into Head(0) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M4A1 from 10.7948 meters 

04:41:05 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into RightArm(17) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 8.1922 meters 
04:41:05 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Torso(24) for 7.79528 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 8.1922 meters 
04:41:05 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into RightArm(30) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 8.10305 meters 
04:41:05 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Torso(1) for 9 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 8.10305 meters 

04:41:06 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" hit by Player "Luke Bourbon" into LeftArm(22) for 26 damage (Bullet_9x19) with MP5-K from 10.1414 meters 
04:41:06 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" hit by Player "Luke Bourbon" into Torso(25) for 1.22835 damage (Bullet_9x19) with MP5-K from 10.1414 meters 
04:41:06 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" is unconscious
  
 04:42:00 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into Torso(24) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45Tracer) with M249 SAW from 0.794795 meters 
  
04:42:25 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into RightArm(30) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 2.51346 meters 
04:42:25 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Torso(1) for 9 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 2.51346 meters 
04:42:25 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Spine(40) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 2.51346 meters 
04:42:25 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Torso(25) for 9 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 2.51346 meters 
04:42:25 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Lungs(48) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 2.51346 meters 
04:42:25 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into LeftArm(29) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 2.51346 meters

04:42:26 | Player "Ivan Risvold" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into RightArm(17) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 2.18213 meters 
04:42:26 | Player "Ivan Risvold" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into LeftArm(21) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 2.26107 meters 
04:42:26 | Player "Ivan Risvold" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into LeftArm(29) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 2.26107 meters 
04:42:26 | Player "Ivan Risvold" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into Lungs(48) for 55 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 2.26107 meters 
04:42:26 | Player "Ivan Risvold" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into Torso(25) for 8.25 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 2.26107 meters 
04:42:26 | Player "Ivan Risvold" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into Torso(25) for 8.25 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 2.26107 meters 
04:42:26 | Player "Ivan Risvold" is unconscious

04:42:27 | Player "Ivan Risvold" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into Torso(12) for 8.25 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 3.31113 meters 
04:42:27 | Player "Ivan Risvold" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into Torso(1) for 8.25 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 3.3656 meters 

04:42:27 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Igor Macek" into Torso(24) for 16.5 damage (Bullet_308Win) with FN-FAL from 4.79067 meters 
04:42:27 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Igor Macek" into LeftHand(46) for 110 damage (Bullet_308Win) with FN-FAL from 4.48247 meters 
04:42:27 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Igor Macek" into RightHand(47) for 110 damage (Bullet_308Win) with FN-FAL from 4.48247 meters 
04:42:27 | Player "Liam Sinclair" hit by Player "Igor Macek" into RightArm(19) for 24.252 damage (Bullet_308Win) with FN-FAL from 4.48247 meters 
04:42:27 | Player "Igor Macek" hit by Player "Liam Sinclair" into Torso(24) for 27.5 damage (Bullet_556x45) with M249 SAW from 4.38632 meters 
  
  04:43:25 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" with FlashGrenade_Ammo into (-1) for 1.26762 damage (FlashGrenade_Ammo)
04:43:25 | Player "Unknown/Dead Entity" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" with FlashGrenade_Ammo into (-1) for 2.39688 damage (FlashGrenade_Ammo)

04:43:25 | Player "Blake Anderson" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" with FlashGrenade_Ammo into (-1) for 0 damage (FlashGrenade_Ammo)

04:43:25 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Blake Anderson" with FlashGrenade_Ammo into (-1) for 0 damage (FlashGrenade_Ammo)
  
04:43:50 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into LeftArm(32) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39Tracer) with AKM from 4.27609 meters 
04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Head(0) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 4.55596 meters 

04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Luke Bourbon" into LeftArm(21) for 26 damage (Bullet_9x19) with MP5-K from 18.4718 meters 
04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Luke Bourbon" into LeftArm(29) for 10.0315 damage (Bullet_9x19) with MP5-K from 18.4718 meters 
04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Luke Bourbon" into Lungs(48) for 10.0315 damage (Bullet_9x19) with MP5-K from 18.4718 meters 
04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Luke Bourbon" into Torso(25) for 5.01575 damage (Bullet_9x19) with MP5-K from 18.4718 meters 
04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Luke Bourbon" into Torso(1) for 0.307086 damage (Bullet_9x19) with MP5-K from 18.4718 meters 
04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Head(0) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 4.1099 meters 
04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" hit by Player "Ivan Risvold" into Brain(37) for 60 damage (Bullet_762x39) with AKM from 4.1099 meters 

04:44:17 | Player "Luke Bourbon" hit by Player "Luke Britt" into Head(0) for 30 damage (Bullet_762x39) with B52 from 3.00824 meters 

Kill logs:

04:40:09 | Player "Jack Ludwig" killed by Player "Blake Anderson" with M4A1 from 6.53689 meters 

04:40:10 | Player "Johnny Malong" killed by Player "Blake Anderson" with M4A1 from 6.92251 meters 

04:41:01 | Player "Jaren Ward" killed by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with M4A1 from 12.8239 meters 

04:41:04 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" killed by Player "Semaj Jamerson" with M4A1 from 10.7948 meters 

04:42:27 | Player "Liam Sinclair" killed by Player "Igor Macek" with FN-FAL from 4.48247 meters 

04:43:52 | Player "Arri Graham" killed by Player "Ivan Risvold" with AKM from 4.55596 meters

04:44:17 | Player "Luke Bourbon" killed by Player "Luke Britt" with B52 from 3.00824 meters 

04:43:56 | Player "Ivan Risvold" bled out

Connection logs:

02:11:43 | Player "Jack Ludwig" is connected
-Dead-

02:09:55 | Player "Blake Anderson" is connected
02:41:00 | Player "Blake Anderson" has been disconnected
02:41:38 | Player "Blake Anderson" is connected
03:05:31 | Player "Blake Anderson" has been disconnected
03:21:37 | Player "Blake Anderson" is connected
03:25:23 | Player "Blake Anderson" has been disconnected
04:37:58 | Player "Blake Anderson" is connected
05:47:51 | Player "Blake Anderson" has been disconnected
05:51:51 | Player "Blake Anderson" is connected
06:00:13 | Player "Blake Anderson" has been disconnected
06:05:10 | Player "Blake Anderson" is connected
06:11:40 | Player "Blake Anderson" has been disconnected
06:34:42 | Player "Blake Anderson" is connected
06:35:35 | Player "Blake Anderson" has been disconnected
06:37:00 | Player "Blake Anderson" is connected
06:38:25 | Player "Blake Anderson" has been disconnected

02:11:34 | Player "Johnny Malong" is connected
-Dead-

02:12:00 | Player "Jaren Ward" is connected
-dead-

03:05:19 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" is connected
03:26:46 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" has been disconnected
04:40:16 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" is connected
05:47:44 | Player "Semaj Jamerson" has been disconnected

02:18:11 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" is connected
03:05:54 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" has been disconnected
03:10:58 | Player "Tupolev Pavlovich" is connected
-Dead-

02:11:01 | Player "Ivan Risvold" is connected
05:05:11 | Player "Ivan Risvold" has been disconnected

04:41:12 | Player "Liam Sinclair" is connected
-DEAD-

02:18:04 | Player "Igor Macek" is connected
03:05:53 | Player "Igor Macek" has been disconnected
03:11:00 | Player "Igor Macek" is connected
05:02:57 | Player "Igor Macek" has been disconnected
05:03:24 | Player "Igor Macek" is connected
05:15:26 | Player "Igor Macek" has been disconnected

02:59:15 | Player "Arri Graham" is connected
03:32:06 | Player "Arri Graham" has been disconnected
04:41:20 | Player "Arri Graham" is connected
04:43:58 | Player "Arri Graham" has been disconnected
04:44:50 | Player "Arri Graham" is connected
04:51:45 | Player "Arri Graham" has been disconnected
04:52:09 | Player "Arri Graham" is connected
-Dead-

02:11:01 | Player "Ivan Risvold" is connected
05:05:11 | Player "Ivan Risvold" has been disconnected

02:11:39 | Player "Luke Bourbon" is connected
02:23:26 | Player "Luke Bourbon" has been disconnected
02:26:40 | Player "Luke Bourbon" is connected
04:19:22 | Player "Luke Bourbon" has been disconnected
04:19:27 | Player "Luke Bourbon" is connected
-Dead-

02:09:55 | Player "Luke Britt" is connected
03:33:22 | Player "Luke Britt" has been disconnected
04:41:29 | Player "Luke Britt" is connected
05:15:45 | Player "Luke Britt" has been disconnected
05:15:53 | Player "Luke Britt" is connected
05:21:21 | Player "Luke Britt" has been disconnected
05:23:13 | Player "Luke Britt" is connected
05:26:37 | Player "Luke Britt" has been disconnected
06:22:00 | Player "Luke Britt" is connected
07:42:48 | Player "Luke Britt" has been disconnected

Calling in the following people for their full detailed POV and possible UNEDITED VIDEO EVIDENCE:

OP and allies:

@YoMoney - Tupolev Pavlovich: OP

@CaptainChips - Ivan Risvold:

 @Notic3 -Johnny Malong:

@daemonium - Jaren Ward:

@LoadedVoltage - Alexei Sergeivich:

 @BroJack_4se_Man - Jack Ludwig:

@Kailen Olsen - Luke Bourbon:

 @bob123Igor Macek:

Accused:

@BandsRP - Luke Britt: POSTED

 @SeversonRP -  Blake Anderson:

@NorwayRP - Arri Graham:

@OiramRP - Semaj Jamerson:

@Hex - Liam Sinclair

 

 

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POV: I wake up to take a pisser and as I walk out of my tent I hear people sawing our locks and stealing shit in our base. I proceed to hop out of the base and move a bit away. At this point they initate on me and I proceed to gun 2 down, and then I fall back to call for reinforcments. I moved north down the river out of there sightline before I called the lads in. I would like to make a counter report on everyone in the channel that was IG, for meta gaming. It is quite clear some of them talked after there deaths, aswell as not double mic'ing IG when talking in discord. I am also curious to why  this would be NVFL, or Meta Gaming, since everything I said in TS was double Mic'ed IG.  No video evidence from me.

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@ bob123 Was a part of the allies involved

 

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POV (wasn't recording because recording software was lagging game): we gather some people to the checkpoint, no one is there so we start looking through all the stuff and taking what we can, out of no where a guy in a red hiking jacket and cow boy hat rolls up, we tell him to put his hands up, he is very out numbered 1 to 8 and 2 people pointing guns at him, it's silent from the guy and I hear a shit ton of gun shots and the guy in the red hunting jacket killed 2 of our men, then we were very confused we thought that we got him for a second because we thought he just didn't comply with the demands. He runs around the base and a guy wakes up right in front of me, we start shooting him because he opens fire on one of ours, then more start popping up, we get ready to leave and get out, when people in their watch tower start waking up and shooting at me, i go unconscious and wake back up, i kill one guy who was shooting at me, and die from 2 more people in the watch tower.

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My POV,

Once around 8 individuals (OP's side) approach Anarchy's checkpoint near Vybor, nobody is found and it was essentially all open, which wasn't expected. We walk inside and start to search the place, nothing locked up but the two large vehicles (that we know of). While searching through, the person with a red shirt walks up/wakes up/appears, whatever happened, and an initiation is dropped - resulting in massive gunfire and confusion. After one guy pops up, more begin to, more gunfire, etc. A decision is made to leave the area, in which we do so. I kill one guy and by that point the majority of my side is dead as I start to get a better position north of the checkpoint. Only having visuals of red smoke, and no allies/enemies, I start circling the area only to see nobody, and those who died left the discord channel of those who were alive still. Considering it was around one in the morning my time, I just decide to wait out the timer and head off to sleep. As you can see in the connection logs, I disconnected/reconnected in the middle of it due to my game crashing when crossing NWAF, which is why I came back within a few minutes. Once I determine it's safe to get off, I do so, heading off to sleep.

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1 hour ago, SeversonRP said:

POV: I wake up to take a pisser and as I walk out of my tent I hear people sawing our locks and stealing shit in our base. I proceed to hop out of the base and move a bit away. At this point they initate on me and I proceed to gun 2 down, and then I fall back to call for reinforcments. I moved north down the river out of there sightline before I called the lads in. I would like to make a counter report on everyone in the channel that was IG, for meta gaming. It is quite clear some of them talked after there deaths, aswell as not double mic'ing IG when talking in discord. I am also curious to why  this would be NVFL, or Meta Gaming, since everything I said in TS was double Mic'ed IG.  No video evidence from me.

Im literally seeing this guy admit to breaking fear RP and not valuing his life??? I really dont understand how there point of "I was sleeping in the base" is relevant to all of them just waking up for no reason. If they were so called "Sleeping in the tents" so they wouldve heard us looting is a  ridiculous claim that makes no sense whatsoever. If there characters were sleeping in the tents then they'd already be at fear RP since we were all over the tents with guns, or we would have already tied or cuffed them in the tents. Or even have shot them. Theres 3 options vs their one "Oh I woke up from gun shots huehuehue" 
Also how is severson RP contacting people who are asleep on his radio??? He claims reinforcements yet people just loaded into the server no body came to help from another location. Thats for sure fail RP, those people are not even in the game and hes asking for reinforcements. 

POV: Once I arrived at the checkpoint I started looting looking inside every tent for any person hiding or waiting to ambush us, I look through every tent personally. Even saw one of our guys go up the tower to check for anyone or any loot. We proceed to start looting until this man comes up in a red sweatshirt and starts saying "Im american! Im good!, this man obviously knew what was going on and was apart of the base, 2 of our men hopped outside of the base with guns drawn and pointed at the man, he proceeds to not put his hands up or comply at all being the only man vs 9 of us raiders. He starts to run around and take a weapon out, killing the two people that already had guns out and were telling him to put his hands up. The red sweatshirt man proceeds to run off and hide somewhere, almost instantly a man from the tower unloads a mag onto one of ours sawing a door. Right after he did that, all of us turned on the man under the tower and took him out. Since people started just appearing we thought it was best to leave so we started too, but we started getting shot in the back from the base as we tried to leave the front gate and alteast two more of our men went down. I started to book it away from the area but keeping an eye on it from a distance, and I saw a bunch of people just "wake up" and start running out of the base seemingly looking for people. 

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Hex's PoV: The vast majority of us are offline playing other games because there is not much going on in the RP server at like 1AM. Severson logs on to quickly check in on our base and catches people inside looting, cutting off locks and generally tossing gear everywhere. They initiate on him for being Chedaki....which makes no sense but alright...and he no comply's, killing two and calling everyone in. They are raiding our base, the base belongs to us so realistically we would be staying there IC while asleep. I log in, accidentally shoot Oraim a few times because he probably deserved it, clear some the area before pushing forward and engaging two. I knock one and die by the other. 

1 hour ago, LoadedVoltage said:

Im literally seeing this guy admit to breaking fear RP and not valuing his life??? I really dont understand how there point of "I was sleeping in the base" is relevant to all of them just waking up for no reason. If they were so called "Sleeping in the tents" so they wouldve heard us looting is a  ridiculous claim that makes no sense whatsoever. If there characters were sleeping in the tents then they'd already be at fear RP since we were all over the tents with guns, or we would have already tied or cuffed them in the tents. Or even have shot them. Theres 3 options vs their one "Oh I woke up from gun shots huehuehue" 
Also how is severson RP contacting people who are asleep on his radio??? He claims reinforcements yet people just loaded into the server no body came to help from another location. Thats for sure fail RP, those people are not even in the game and hes asking for reinforcements. 
 

Obviously Severson believed you to be sloppy raiders and took his chances, he came out on top and killed two of you off the break without even getting a scratch on him so its not even NVFL. its been well over 2 years into the apocalypse and if you havent had several guns pointed at you at least once, then you are lucky. IC we are used to such things and even a day or two ago we went 11v30 and still came out on top easily. We have little to fear simple because you have a numbers advantage that was soon taken away. Ultimately this was a salt report as shown by the screenshots and even the discord messages in the DayZ channel. 

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Hex's PoV: The vast majority of us are offline playing other games because there is not much going on in the RP server at like 1AM. Severson logs on to quickly check in on our base and catches people inside looting, cutting off locks and generally tossing gear everywhere. They initiate on him for being Chedaki....which makes no sense but alright...and he no comply's, killing two and calling everyone in. They are raiding our base, the base belongs to us so realistically we would be staying there IC while asleep. I log in, accidentally shoot Oraim a few times because he probably deserved it, clear some the area before pushing forward and engaging two. I knock one and die by the other. 

Obviously Severson believed you to be sloppy raiders and took his chances, he came out on top and killed two of you off the break without even getting a scratch on him so its not even NVFL. its been well over 2 years into the apocalypse and if you havent had several guns pointed at you at least once, then you are lucky. IC we are used to such things and even a day or two ago we went 11v30 and still came out on top easily. We have little to fear simple because you have a numbers advantage that was soon taken away. Ultimately this was a salt report as shown by the screenshots and even the discord messages in the DayZ channel. 

So in 30-45 seconds he can decide if someone is a sloppy raider and just avoid rules? Its a 9v1 not a 11v30 theres a big difference. You're at a disadvantage, you werent prepared with your 11 men full armed to goto battle or fight. We lost men quickly because areas that were already SEARCHED had no body in it, until the logs show that people CONNECTED to the server and with the obvious knowledge that they were being raided and used those already searched locations to kill us. Also its not the fact that he "he came out on top and killed two of you off the break without even getting a scratch on him" thats irrelevant to the actual FACT that 2 people had weapons drawn pointed at him telling him to do an action, he also admits to hearing multiple people inside raiding, he knows its more that just the two he sees. Which puts him at more of an disadvantage, you all can make characters that are made of steel and can do all and see all. But you literally are avoiding the fact that if your "ASLEEP" you would already of been tied, had guns pointed at you while your laying down, or shot before you woke up. 2 of ours outside and one of yours leaves 7 of us inside, only 4 of you inside? Still a huge disadvantage especially just waking up and should have no knowledge on whats happening. 
    The thought about a salt report? I got away with everything I took from there, no salt tasted here? I didnt make the report yet there is very obvious wrong doings here, I have no reason to be upset considering everything went fine for my character, not even a bullet in him. You guys act like you're terminators, I really dont know how you dont expect a report. 

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41 minutes ago, LoadedVoltage said:

So in 30-45 seconds he can decide if someone is a sloppy raider and just avoid rules? Its a 9v1 not a 11v30 theres a big difference. You're at a disadvantage, you werent prepared with your 11 men full armed to goto battle or fight. We lost men quickly because areas that were already SEARCHED had no body in it, until the logs show that people CONNECTED to the server and with the obvious knowledge that they were being raided and used those already searched locations to kill us. Also its not the fact that he "he came out on top and killed two of you off the break without even getting a scratch on him" thats irrelevant to the actual FACT that 2 people had weapons drawn pointed at him telling him to do an action, he also admits to hearing multiple people inside raiding, he knows its more that just the two he sees. Which puts him at more of an disadvantage, you all can make characters that are made of steel and can do all and see all. But you literally are avoiding the fact that if your "ASLEEP" you would already of been tied, had guns pointed at you while your laying down, or shot before you woke up. 2 of ours outside and one of yours leaves 7 of us inside, only 4 of you inside? Still a huge disadvantage especially just waking up and should have no knowledge on whats happening. 
    The thought about a salt report? I got away with everything I took from there, no salt tasted here? I didnt make the report yet there is very obvious wrong doings here, I have no reason to be upset considering everything went fine for my character, not even a bullet in him. You guys act like you're terminators, I really dont know how you dont expect a report. 

In truth you would not have even gotten into the base if this was real life and occupied by a force the size of Anarchy. Anarchy is a 35 member group, you think that if this was real life we would not have rotating guard shifts to keep people from slipping inside and stealing? So if you are gonna take the 'Oh in real life you would already have been captured' bullshit, you would have not even gotten inside. Ya'll raided at like 1 in the morning, certainly not prime time for anyone with a normal sleep schedule. Also its not avoiding the rules if he dident break any, if Severson had died it would have been NVFL, but he dident, so he dient break any rules.

This sort of situation has been ruled plenty of times in the favor of the defenders. Many many many times we would go into compounds, clear them and have a whole group log in on our heads. Its not ghosting or anything because thats just where we logged out. Raiding a base comes with risk and this is one of them.

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17 minutes ago, Hex said:

In truth you would not have even gotten into the base if this was real life and occupied by a force the size of Anarchy. Anarchy is a 35 member group, you think that if this was real life we would not have rotating guard shifts to keep people from slipping inside and stealing? So if you are gonna take the 'Oh in real life you would already have been captured' bullshit, you would have not even gotten inside. Ya'll raided at like 1 in the morning, certainly not prime time for anyone with a normal sleep schedule. Also its not avoiding the rules if he dident break any, if Severson had died it would have been NVFL, but he dident, so he dient break any rules.

This sort of situation has been ruled plenty of times in the favor of the defenders. Many many many times we would go into compounds, clear them and have a whole group log in on our heads. Its not ghosting or anything because thats just where we logged out. Raiding a base comes with risk and this is one of them.

If thats gonna be your explanation thats pretty sad, thats all I can say. 35 people who sleep in 5 tents, good luck with that. Also I didnt know you had to die to break the rules?? Thanks for the tip, if I just whip my gun out when at a disadvantage and merk them all, im in the right. You really set a good example my man!

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NorwayRP POV: I was teaching some of the guys how to play the Warhammer 40k tabletop, on table top sim when severson begins double mic'ing in our channel. Obviously at first i'm confused as shit but then I realize whats going on and close down table top sim and message the boys we all log on and we kill the threats after they initiate/shoot at severson attempt to raid our base.

But since these lads are gonna call us out for meta-gaming it's time I put on my lawyer shoes.

So starting off with their video, the clearest example I can find is this timestamp, 

 At this time stamp IC information is being transferred through discord (Radio) and yet not a single person in their group has double micc'ed a single time, this would be a clear cut cast of violating rule 3.6 " While in presence of other players all such communication should also be transmitted in game using "double mic" mechanic. This means transmitting both through in game VOIP and external software simultaneously."

@Rover @Samti Moving on the OP also admits to deleting evidence " And on the recording topic, I did trim the video and deleted the original recording to save space on my computer. " but as can be seen in BandsRP's POV the OP began posting in discord saying he was going to report immediately after the situation. So obviously that footage was deleted intentionally. 

Along with this the persistent attitude by the OP and his group in all honesty does not follow our community values. On multiple occasions instead of providing a meaningful counter argument to prove a rule break they stick to personal attacks against my group members which is extremely disheartening to see.

In conclusion, I believe it is pretty clear to see there was no rule breaks on anarchy's side, The NVFL isn't valid because the OP is not in an approved group, and although most of them initiate only 2 of them have LOS on Severson, or are even near him. Both of those people are killed by Severson immediately with him only being hit once. Then 50 seconds after killing the first two Severson disengaged out of combat into safety and is reinforced, meaning that any one time severson had at max 2 enemies to deal with because, like someone in a disadvantageous position, he weighed his options. First he knows he will receive help, he knows that only 2 people are within 15 meters of him and he knows there are only 2 hostilies to kill and he's in full Jugg. So he acts in the best interest of his character, he slaughters the first two the pulls back to await reinforcement. It isn't meta-gaming on our part because severson was double micc'ing all that was said, and it wouldn't be invalid kills on our part because as soon as each one of us loaded in we re-initiated to be certain.

@Rover @Samti The only rulebreaks in this situation is a clear False Report from the OP, it's obvious this is a salt report and immediately after the OP realized we were gonna through the rulebook right back at him for his groups obvious meta rulebreak he attempted to close the report. So moving on to explain the OP's Metagaming rule 3.6 in the video it is clear they are using a distributing IC information without double micc'ing whilst in the presence of other players, therefore violating the rule. On top of this they also violate rule 3.5 as each time one of them dies they call it out and report what Severson was doing at that time and what weapon he had which can be heard at 0:51 onwards. 

And just to make sure staff see's every rule break i'm calling them out for here, i'm going to at the GM''s handling the report. 

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(no video evedence i was told others were recording so i didnt start it up.)

    we gathered a few like minded people around 8 if my memory serves me right and decided to take stuff stolen from us by anarchy back. So we headed to the check point after grouping up around green mountain pushing down to vmc then into rugovo. the check point was unlocked so we walked in and cleared the place for hostiles, we then started going through containers and i dropped on weapon down next to me to start cutting into the vehicle bay were i stayed for the rest of the encounter stuck in a glitched animation sawing through a wooden lower wall. I spotted Blake (a guy dressed in a red and black shirt with a cowboy hat.) yell at him to put his hands up and for our guys to get ready and go hold him up. at this point he is outnumbered 1-8, he says nothing i can hear then opens fire upon two of us killing them. And i lost visual and everything, then all hell breaks loose as people start "waking up" in the base. From then i dont know who was shooting at who or what, then i was shot from behind finally ending the torment of being stuck cutting a wall for ages.

 

the flaming that i did was only me and not condoned by anyone else.

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I was making an Orkz army for the tabletop 40k game we plan on doing (apparently I did a terrible job)  and then I hear @SeversonRP say over the radio ''Two retards down'' and woke up. I spray two people down and I get knocked out with a jug vest and when I wake up somebody took it off of me thinking I was dead, which I clearly wasn't. I hold under the tower trynna saving myself from dying and get shot in the back. Thankfully my boys realise it's me after they see the whole purple setup and leave me on flashing red. Now at this point I have to ammo left in my m4 but somehow I ended with an fnx in my inventory, thanks to the vest swap with somebody and pull that baby out and try and hold a guy that has a jugg vest and a black helmet. Clearly I don't do a good job seeing as I feel unconscious about 5 times being on flashing red blood and health and also my man Norway getting gatted. Anyway, when I wake up I pick my FNX back up and look towards where the man in jug vest was all I see is about 4 bodies. I stay inside the compound, taking back my jug vest from one of those multiple dead bodies and proceed to chill in the checkpoint for a while. Don't worry about me, im no longer on flashing red. 

No video recording, sorry. 

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I was gathered with my friend Ivan to help with an attack on anarchy after multiple people I talked to have claimed they slave and generally do bad stuff (my character has also seen first hand as well they are not the nicest of people) and also had taken some stuff of mine so i joined the group and helped attack or at least maybe sabotage one of their bases (they had more of a clue than I did on any plan) so it was really simple I just took my rifle and went (i was also given an Mp5 on the way out there too) and I went there and was shot at (not hit) by a man in a red sweater and then proceeded to shoot at anarchy who was logging on that were shooting my men and I believe I shot one and then grabbed his big body armor and then tried to leave but my friend Ivan (mikolai) had been knocked unconscious and I saw his body on the way out so I got in a safe position behind a sandbag in an attempt for a final stand to help my friend but I died in the end nonetheless. This was my first real PVP encounter where I actually try and shoot someone on this server after and I have to say I am not impressed whatsoever.

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VERDICT

@daemonium - Flaming - GUILTY
@YoMoney - False Report and Metagaming - GUILTY
@CaptainChips @LoadedVoltage @bob123 @BroJack_4se_Man - Metagaming - GUILTY
@SeversonRP - NVFL - NOT GUILTY

REASON

THE FLAMING

First of all. During the aftermath of this encounter @daemonium was in contact with @BandsRP for a log off permission. The attitude you've shown in this conversation, as well as the badmouthing of other community members is distasteful to say the least. In addition you've been spreading bad vibes and borderline flamed Anarchy and their members in the open channels as well, as provided in the same bunch of screenshots. This is not acceptable by any means. You've been warned about this before, and we will therefore aggravate this punishment.

THE FALSE REPORT

After putting up the report @YoMoney, it seems as if you claim that you had spoken to the opposite party and agreed to close it. You then rephrase yourself after being questioned. You wished to close it quite fast after seeing the response from @SeversonRP where you are called out on multiple rulebreaks.

In addition to this you have clearly edited the video, and deleted the source file, which is tampering with evidence. Always make sure to keep the source file until a report is dealt with properly by the staff team. In this case we needed the full un-edited version, which we never received.

You reported the accused based on false accusations, and in addition to this tampered the evidence. You tried to escape by closing it, which didn't work. This is not taken upon lightly. In the future attempt talk things out with the accused party before you report, and keep the source files until it is no longer necessary.

THE METAGAMING

Throughout the whole video multiple of you are seen talking and sharing IC information OOCly without double micing. This is not allowed according to rule 3.6. I suggest that all of you take another peek at the rules section, but especially this.

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3.6 Using OOC communications like Discord, TeamSpeak or others to transmit or receive information related to in game situations is only allowed when you have a personal radio item in your inventory. As soon as your character loses the ability to speak or use the radio - for example has died, is unconscious, has been gagged, is surrendering (F1 or F2 animation), is handcuffed or had your radio item or clothing containing it removed from your inventory - you may not receive or transmit any in game information through OOC communications. While in presence of other players all such communication should also be transmitted in game using "double mic" mechanic. This means transmitting both through in game VOIP and external software simultaneously.

If you find this a bit hard to actually do, I suggest binding the Discord-key to the same key as in-game. If you want to speak OOCly, you can bind another key to push-to-talk on Discord which you can use to talk OOCly with your friends.

THE NVFL

@SeversonRP never died during the encounter. To be punished by NVFL your character must die to being in circumstances that is nearly impossible to survive in. While Severson were heavily outnumbered, however seeing as he somehow managed to survive, and cannot be punished by NVFL:

I have to note though, to you @SeversonRP. Had you died in this encounter you would've been given a full NVFL punishment which would've resulted in a permanent death of your character. I suggest everyone part of this report re-reads the NVFL rule for future reference.

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3.2 Your character must behave realistically and appropriately to the different situations you participate in, keeping the current world situation and context of post-apocalyptic world in mind. Do not act in a way that indicates no value for your characters life and survival. For example, attempting to kill people when heavily outnumbered, excessively talking back or insulting someone when taken hostage, or knowingly running into an area of active hostile engagement when not involved in the fight. Characters found guilty of breaking this rule will be permanently marked as dead.

This whole report should never have been posted. However we see that there were multiple rules broken, and we would suggest that everyone involved re-reads the whole ruleset one more time just to make sure that you fully understand the rules while you are on your... break.

With that said.

OUTCOME

@daemonium - Flaming - 10 WARNING POINTS
@YoMoney - False Report and Metagaming - 7 DAY BAN, 15 WARNING POINTS
@CaptainChips @LoadedVoltage @bob123 @BroJack_4se_Man - Metagaming - 3 DAY BAN, 10 WARNING POINTS
@SeversonRP - NVFL - NOT GUILTY, NO PUNISHMENT

Signed @Hofer, @Rover, @Samti

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